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TreasonousBastard

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20. Whose "prevailing idea"?

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 09:35 AM

Dec 2014

This is a huge country with beliefs and practices all over the map.

You might be able to successfully campaign against handguns in NYC, but don't try it in Montana. Let's see you win going big time for gay marriage in Utah or Alabama. Or against coal mining in West Virginia.

OK, we've finally gotten to the point where it's against the grain to openly preach racism, sexism, and other forms of bigotry or to claim destroying the air and water is good for all of us. But, leading the charge for the good guys still pretty much guarantees a loss in a lot of places.

We can't win everywhere, and shouldn't try to win in Klan country, but we do have to be flexible where we can have an effect.

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Why are people saying "conservative Democrats lost and liberals won"? [View all] Recursion Dec 2014 OP

Because people start from conclusions and then look for evidence. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #1

How far to the right are you willing to go to "win" elections? Scootaloo Dec 2014 #2

Probably about as far as you are... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #4

Come on. Give me an actual answer Scootaloo Dec 2014 #5

Do you really think i can draw a line somewhere? How many... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #11

No, I'm honestly more interested in what lines you WILL cross Scootaloo Dec 2014 #14

The "teabag zone" is out of bounds, but... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #15

Well the prevailing idea that there is no limit. Scootaloo Dec 2014 #17

Whose "prevailing idea"? TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #20

+10000! Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #29

Which Republican policies are you willing to implement? AgingAmerican Dec 2014 #27

If Adolf Koch Cheney would vote for Pelosi as Speaker, and his R opponent was to his right Recursion Dec 2014 #24

Because they WERE focusing on the Senate. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #3

+1000! The house is rigged, and will be for the next 40 years I heard. RiverLover Dec 2014 #7

I'm in Bishop's district and have my own ideas on what happened... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #8

Did Bishop put out his own commercials Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #9

Yes, he did, but... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #12

That's a pretty lethal 1-2 punch. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #13

We also lost 5 of 6 presidential elections until Clinton moved the party to the right BeyondGeography Dec 2014 #6

plus she seems to have similar views on foreign policy JI7 Dec 2014 #10

She could explain that she was a Republican while her Party refused to act on AIDS while thousands Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #19

Her background would cost her in the primaries, not in the general, imo BeyondGeography Dec 2014 #21

She can't make it to a general because she has not been honest about her past at all. Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #22

^^^ This Recursion Dec 2014 #26

yep. Phlem Dec 2014 #33

Those 8 years under Bush sure were fun! joshcryer Dec 2014 #41

Yep and when I lost my job to NAFTA, that was super fun. Phlem Dec 2014 #43

Liberals should be Liberals and stop pretending to be anything else. Stellar Dec 2014 #16

nooooo! Phlem Dec 2014 #31

Right. And painting anyone who wants the Dems to win as a "3rd way con" isn't fearmongering. baldguy Dec 2014 #39

It's only fear mongering when you have been following the right ward march for 40 + years Phlem Dec 2014 #42

"It's only fear mongering when someone else does it." There, FTFY. baldguy Dec 2014 #44

Oh I didn't know you did. Phlem Dec 2014 #45

Because my State had large turnout, elected a Senator, 4 Reps, a governor, and the next morning on Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #18

Gay marriage seems to help the national party more than hurt us now Recursion Dec 2014 #23

I hadn't heard the part about liberals winning. Rex Dec 2014 #25

It's 2010 all over again. joshcryer Dec 2014 #28

So standing for liberal policies is far left? Phlem Dec 2014 #32

Um, no? joshcryer Dec 2014 #35

I see how that can be an issue for the liberal Democratic Party. Phlem Dec 2014 #37

Not at all. joshcryer Dec 2014 #38

Sure it works exactly that way. Phlem Dec 2014 #40

Bishop was in my former district. He wasn't very responsive to voters, often called his office sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #30

I am trying to get this straight here. sadoldgirl Dec 2014 #34

Which speaks to the need for a moderate (aka centrist) party, a Liberal (aka progresse or leftist) Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #36

That would be a catastrophe, because the first and third would alternate in power. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #48

Who is saying that progressives won? We're saying that if we're going to lose anyway, Zorra Dec 2014 #46

If you are so right wing AgingAmerican Dec 2014 #47