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kimbutgar

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31. A lot of fox loving republican voters get those pensions that are going to get cut

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 01:24 PM

Dec 2014

Then fox will spin it, the fault is Obama's. The stupids won't realize those they support are the ones who are responsible. But they'll be lead away by lies once again.

My 92 year old mother gets my Dad's generous pension, luckily it's Calpers and we are a solid blue state. But I don't feel sorry for any retiree with a pension who votes republican. The rethugs are going to go after their social security and Medicare benefits also but they are too neuro linguistically brained washed to realize they have been duped.

If I was younger I would sell everything and move to another country. Because there is going to be a lot of pain in this country in the next few years. And fox will blame the President and not the tea rethug congress.

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Congress could soon allow pension plans to cut benefits for current retirees [View all] annabanana Dec 2014 OP

Awful LeftInTX Dec 2014 #1

This is horrible! yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #5

This is why, despite all the drawbacks, I fully support 401k/IRA plans over kelly1mm Dec 2014 #2

What in the world are you talking about? I know a lot of people who retired early with a antigop Dec 2014 #8

My wife and I just retiured this past June. She was a school teacher for 22 years and retired at 46 kelly1mm Dec 2014 #12

that's just because you and your wife's pension was set up that way. There is nothing LEGALLY antigop Dec 2014 #13

Besides public safety and military pensions, I know of no other defined benefit kelly1mm Dec 2014 #15

There are plans that do...you just don't know about them. antigop Dec 2014 #17

I am pushing my agenda. What I am saying is that I am very glad that I control the majority kelly1mm Dec 2014 #18

GO watch the PBS Frontline link I posted. And how did those ENRON 401(k)'s work out? antigop Dec 2014 #29

Where do you think definded benefit pension money is invested? Wall Street! Look at CALPERS, kelly1mm Dec 2014 #20

You are...why do you think Wall Street loves 401(k)'s over defined benefit pensions? Why would antigop Dec 2014 #28

Do you deny that defined benefit pension plans like CALPERS and the Teamsters invest in Wall Street? kelly1mm Dec 2014 #34

WATCH. THE. PBS. FRONTLINE. VIDEO. I. POSTED. AND. STOP. PUSHING. RW. TALKING. POINTS. nt antigop Dec 2014 #35

No. You will not answer a simple question so I will not comply with your shouted demand. nt kelly1mm Dec 2014 #40

No, what? You won't watch the video I posted? Watch it. And learn. nt antigop Dec 2014 #41

Answer my question. Does CAPLPERS and or the Teamster's Pension Fund invest in Wall Street? nt kelly1mm Dec 2014 #43

Why do you think Wall Street loves 401(k)'s over defined benefit pensions? Watch the video! antigop Dec 2014 #44

thanks for the opportunity to post the video -- the one you won't watch. nt antigop Dec 2014 #45

Yes they do Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #47

Short answer is to convert to ROTH IRA and wait 5 years. It takes planning kelly1mm Dec 2014 #49

ok Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #51

Why do you think Wall Street loves 401(k)'s over defined benefit pensions? Watch the video! antigop Dec 2014 #42

Wall street already has their hands on pensioners and pensioner investment funds. Calista241 Dec 2014 #59

Nice rightwing talking points there. WATCH THE VIDEO! nt antigop Dec 2014 #61

I retired traditional and early a week ago today Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #46

My wife could retire "early" at 55 and draw her teachers pension (at a 42% discount from 'full' kelly1mm Dec 2014 #48

Since I retired early I can withdraw from my 457 without a penalty Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #50

yes - that is exactly what we did. Along with some (by todays standards) pretty amazing kelly1mm Dec 2014 #52

Marta and I both have Roths at Ameritrade Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #55

I know lots of people retired early on pensions Marrah_G Dec 2014 #57

I am sorry that at 44 you have no savings/retirement plan. Way too many americans in this position. kelly1mm Dec 2014 #58

I hope they plan on building a lot more sec 8 elderly housing Marrah_G Dec 2014 #62

Is anyone surprised by this? NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #3

"Gee, I wonder where all the money went!" NBachers Dec 2014 #4

exactly-companies are having record profits and the stock market has doubled in 6 years Johonny Dec 2014 #24

I'm sure while they're starving they'll be glad we can afford all those bombs! BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #6

it's not just the bombs onethatcares Dec 2014 #22

Yes and now cities are doing it as well BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #32

Limit it. bl968 Dec 2014 #7

Executive bonuses are ok imo as long as its not an exorbitant amount and as long as its not given cstanleytech Dec 2014 #11

There's a new one (or two, or three, or four) every day. woo me with science Dec 2014 #9

+1 LiberalLoner Dec 2014 #21

And one of the two sponsors is a Democrat martigras Dec 2014 #10

For the life of me...... DeSwiss Dec 2014 #14

Will Obama veto it or "compromise"? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #16

This is why Democrats are losing seats. Stand up for the people damn it. liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #19

this is funny, theyre losing seats now cause dems are not standing up for them at election time belzabubba333 Dec 2014 #23

I don't vote for people who actively vote against mine and my family's best interest. liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #38

And what are our Democratic Party "serious people" doing to stop it? 99Forever Dec 2014 #25

why the surprise DustyJoe Dec 2014 #26

Well, Congress can show how much they are behind this idea and step up to the plate and say Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #27

Yes, indeed. cyberswede Dec 2014 #54

Right wingers would dance in the street... yuiyoshida Dec 2014 #30

A lot of fox loving republican voters get those pensions that are going to get cut kimbutgar Dec 2014 #31

Fuck faux snooze. My puggie acquaintance at work will see who's making the cuts. He ain't gona lonestarnot Dec 2014 #56

let's start with congressional pensions. spanone Dec 2014 #33

amen to that brother onethatcares Dec 2014 #36

+1 billion Rex Dec 2014 #37

We can't let this happen..but how can we stop onecent Dec 2014 #39

Words fail me. TDale313 Dec 2014 #53

Let's start with congress. Eliminate their pensions and move them to 80/20 401K's on point Dec 2014 #60