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Sun Dec 7, 2014, 04:06 PM

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Explaining white privilege to a broke white person [View all] pnwmom Dec 2014 OP

I understand why they feel that way. bravenak Dec 2014 #1

you seem to have fallen behind hfojvt Dec 2014 #4

I just meant that a poor white man of equal circumstances to a poor black man. bravenak Dec 2014 #8

Historically that was true--today it does not mean a whole hell of a lot bklyncowgirl Dec 2014 #88

.. Cha Dec 2014 #89

she had the right reaction at the start hfojvt Dec 2014 #2

Is that where you stopped reading? She's not trying to tell poor people pnwmom Dec 2014 #3

just because a bully picks on the group next to the group im in doesnt neccessarily belzabubba333 Dec 2014 #20

That's different than arguing any white is better off than any black. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2014 #93

Would you be better off as a woman? Quantess Dec 2014 #46

I don't like the 'privilege' meme at all Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #5

That is not how the word "privilege" is being used here. pnwmom Dec 2014 #7

These are rights not privileges Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #9

I think you're missing the larger point while you're quibbling about semantics. nt pnwmom Dec 2014 #11

Semantics are vital Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #12

... TBF Dec 2014 #19

Words do indeed have meaning. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #38

"They aren't held to the same standards as others." nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #75

"I don't want to talk about this, so I'll make it about something else instead!" (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2014 #62

Ugh. There's always one. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #33

And there should be Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #39

People like you are the problem. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #40

+ a million nt laundry_queen Dec 2014 #43

Only if your solution is total wipeout of the Democratic Party Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #44

Wow Scootaloo Dec 2014 #49

Rights? Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #53

Not answering the question. I will take that as "yes" Scootaloo Dec 2014 #54

Not answering the strawman Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #55

This isn't about pandering for votes. morningfog Dec 2014 #56

I'm part of the solution Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #61

If you feel like you got a finger in the eye, then you are claiming morningfog Dec 2014 #67

Thank you for that post. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #74

"The solution is to stop judging people by what color they are." Of course it is. nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #76

How did this become about the party? Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2014 #77

Thank you, ND Cha Dec 2014 #90

If you commit a crime and only receive a warning... BklnDem75 Dec 2014 #66

It is a strange phenomenon imo, to see an exclusion to 'white privilege' based on low wages. Rex Dec 2014 #6

A person without a pot to piss in isn't going to be convinced they are privileged Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #10

And yet the writer, who came from just such a background, pnwmom Dec 2014 #13

It's full of false equivalences Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #21

I don't know, I see myself as American. moriah Dec 2014 #51

It is not about white culture. Where the fuck did you get that? morningfog Dec 2014 #69

"THE FUCK!?!?" I said... hughee99 Dec 2014 #80

Yes, which means he's normal. But then he thought things through. n/t pnwmom Dec 2014 #83

Not exactly. Then he was directed to a better form of the argument, the McIntosh's essay. hughee99 Dec 2014 #86

Add being black to "Joe's" situation, and it's even harder. cyberswede Dec 2014 #14

Oh I agree they won't be convinced, but that does not mean the term is not accurate. Rex Dec 2014 #16

And yet they don't generally get hassled by the cops walking down the street. alarimer Dec 2014 #64

Well then how about male privilege? Quantess Dec 2014 #50

They make more money. alarimer Dec 2014 #65

In my opinion, child care and early childhood education should be well paid! Quantess Dec 2014 #70

You said it! nt raccoon Dec 2014 #72

Then maybe it's not such a good idea bluestateguy Dec 2014 #15

It is akin in many ways to being an Hidalgo in colonial Latin America Xipe Totec Dec 2014 #17

this here is a huge problem belzabubba333 Dec 2014 #25

Why did no one at the bundy ranch get shot or even arrested? Xipe Totec Dec 2014 #30

How about the Branch Davidians? Weren't they white? (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #81

This sort of conversation reflects one of the reasons why low income whites shun Democrats bklyncowgirl Dec 2014 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author belzabubba333 Dec 2014 #23

Like bluestateguy Dec 2014 #24

which democratic candidate talks about white privilege? noiretextatique Dec 2014 #27

Your post might have finally explained walkingman Dec 2014 #29

Actually, it's because of the fucking idiots who deliberately twist the meaning NuclearDem Dec 2014 #37

It's a poorly-chosen term. Orrex Dec 2014 #42

A large part of the skill of politics Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #45

That does not change the fact that many working class white men believe exactly that. bklyncowgirl Dec 2014 #91

...^ that 840high Dec 2014 #47

Just about the only "good job" that someone could possibly have lost to "cheap illegal workers" cheapdate Dec 2014 #78

I was thinking construction but back in the day meatpacking was often unionized as well. bklyncowgirl Dec 2014 #87

The question is, if your white friend was struggling to pay rent, medical bills, etc., Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #22

We, as working class folk, whether black or white... Blanks Dec 2014 #26

Ah, the old pull yourself up by the bootstraps argument. Dr. Xavier Dec 2014 #28

Did you perhaps reply in the wrong thread? Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #35

No, Nye, its Sunday morning and I am still trying to remember where I parked my car... Dr. Xavier Dec 2014 #41

in re-reading my post... Dr. Xavier Dec 2014 #36

Pardon the colloquialisms but they help to make a point. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2014 #31

Please, good people, try to understand each other! You are on the same side! You need not fight. raging moderate Dec 2014 #32

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #34

That doesn't explain why black professional people pnwmom Dec 2014 #52

Yes, controlling for class, whites on the whole are treated better than blacks. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2014 #58

Most professional black people are not famous. So they are much more likely pnwmom Dec 2014 #59

Person A and Person B DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2014 #60

Person A, college educated African American professional. pnwmom Dec 2014 #63

White privilege is real...I would never , ever dispute that but $$$$$ confers benefits... DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2014 #68

Yes, money confers benefits. But it doesn't protect black people pnwmom Dec 2014 #71

I am SO hopeful that this sinks in. Not sure it will, but hope so... CTyankee Dec 2014 #73

One thing I don't care for when it comes to the privilege argument madville Dec 2014 #48

This DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2014 #92

"Privilege" and "disadvantage" are relative terms. 6000eliot Dec 2014 #57

Disadvantaged by institutional racism would process a hell of a lot better without nearly the same TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #79

We have a problem-sans-solution issue here Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #82

That is not what the use of the term implies. pnwmom Dec 2014 #85

THIS! 6000eliot Dec 2014 #95

Money has nothing to do with it Matrosov Dec 2014 #84

Being white has its privileges but being broke doesn't offer many. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2014 #94