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In reply to the discussion: Explaining white privilege to a broke white person [View all]TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)bickering about the terminology but some folks are heavily invested in the term to the point of preferring it not being understood than to attempt more digestable verbiage.
Some maintain that black people have decided this terminology and we are the affected so that carries the day, I find it pretty strange as I never got my ballot and have never in real life ever heard a black person utter the phrase unless you count TV.
Does it exist? Oh fuck yes. Is the terminology productive? Doesn't seem to be in my observation, it sets off defense mechanisms resulting in the very people who need to get it to move the needle to ignore the whole concept THAT BENEFITS THEM ANYWAY.
I don't see how some can't accept the deck is stacked against getting the concept to be internalized for enough to positively change anyway without adding willful stumbling blocks to the mix seemingly for stubbornness sake.
Yeah, I've seen the claims the term is science and to deny it tantamount to climate change denial, except the science isn't about the label but a process. The name is a place holder, if a more accurate or even just a more digestable term comes then so be it as we saw with going from the accurate yet misleading global warming to the less distortable climate change.
Here the sociological process often seems secondary to the terminology used to describe it but the name is not where the scientific aspect is, the operative science (as far as soft science can go) is WHAT IS HAPPENING, WHEN IT HAPPENS, WHERE IT HAPPENS, AND HOW IT HAPPENS.
That is the critical aspect, there is no experiment, methodology, or observation can prove or disprove a hypothesis what the proper verbiage and to pretend the phrase it's self is "science" is a strange argument on very shakey logical grounds but regularly and fiercely argued that could be let go except for the campaign is counterproductive in my view and so has negative personal consequences for myself and others who will continue to live the downside along with the folks pushing it based on pure vanity and hard headedness.
Every discussion ever is mired in endless debate about shit that isn't even really the point and so the point that we are not equal is lost or distorted more often than not before the conversation on the meat of the matter can even happen.