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pampango

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35. I agree. republicans have no reason to give Obama 'fast track' authority. Without it they can pick
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 01:07 PM
Dec 2014

apart any TPP that is submitted to them and remove any good provisions (perhaps on environmental or labor issues) in it and leave just the pro-corporate provisions and maybe insert some new ones for good measure. Obama could veto the resulting republican version of the TPP. Even assuming the veto was not overridden what would all that have accomplished?

They don't like Obama or trust him. Why would republicans want to give him an authority that would then prevent their own republican-dominated congress from picking apart whatever Obama were to submit?

Obama would be a fool to submit the TPP to a republican congress without 'fast track' and republicans have no reason to give it to him. People may or may not like Obama but he is not fool.

As you said, he would just walk away from it now.

The only polls I've found on fast track back up what you say about conservatives.

While opposition is relatively uniform both geographically and demographically, the survey data reveals a sharp partisan divide on the issue. Republicans overwhelmingly oppose giving fast-track authority to the president (8% in favor, 87% opposed), as do independents (20%-66%), while a narrow majority (52%) of Democrats are in favor (35% opposed).

http://fasttrackpoll.info/

On the issue of trade agreements, divisions within the Republican Party are again apparent. Staunch Conservatives are strongly opposed to granting the president fast-track authority: 76% oppose, only 22% favor. Moderate Republicans and Populist Republicans also oppose this proposal; however, their opposition is more muted. Among Moderate Republicans, 53% oppose, 43% favor; among Populists, 57% oppose, 35% favor.

Democratic groups are more united on this issue. Roughly 50% of Liberals, Socially Conservative Democrats and Partisan Poor favor fast track. New Democrats are more likely than any other typology group to endorse the idea — 61% favor.

http://www.people-press.org/1999/11/11/section-6-issues/
As one of the architects of TPP I just want to say to you. Thank you Hillary. Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #1
I think you might want to revise your misplaced modifier! WinkyDink Dec 2014 #7
Yeah, my first reaction. Gets in the way of the meaning. maddiemom Dec 2014 #13
Great post Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #2
Corporations just don't have enough influence. That's why we need the TPP and related trade deals. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #3
Appears to be a corporate/neo-feudal blueprint for castrating those pesky (democratic) goverments Faryn Balyncd Dec 2014 #11
That's a pretty good description. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #28
Well put. woo me with science Dec 2014 #31
TPP, by and for the 1% ONLY! blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #4
K&R.... daleanime Dec 2014 #5
Bernie Sanders dotymed Dec 2014 #6
Yes he is. That didn't occur to me until a few weeks ago, and it's so clear! Go Bernie- appalachiablue Dec 2014 #46
Excellent read... handmade34 Dec 2014 #8
Thank you for the links. woo me with science Dec 2014 #40
NOT looking forward to the Hillary apologists' obfuscation about this piece of corporate crap. djean111 Dec 2014 #9
+1 woo me with science Dec 2014 #32
K & R! joshdawg Dec 2014 #10
The TPP will be shoved down our throats. And if you think things are bad now...... Hotler Dec 2014 #12
It scares me no end. easychoice Dec 2014 #59
Wages and family income increased under Clinton and unemployment declined. pampango Dec 2014 #61
K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2014 #14
The right-wingers who rail about yielding our sovereignty to the UN... thesquanderer Dec 2014 #15
They will see this very differently..... RationalMan Dec 2014 #17
They will think what they are told to think. zeemike Dec 2014 #18
TPP gets plenty of hate on conservative sites (nt) Recursion Dec 2014 #20
I see what you did there Ichingcarpenter Dec 2014 #25
Well, Freerepublic is about as anti-TPP as DU is, and WND regularly rails against it Recursion Dec 2014 #19
I see what you did there Ichingcarpenter Dec 2014 #26
No. I didn't say or imply it's a reason to support TPP Recursion Dec 2014 #30
I agree. republicans have no reason to give Obama 'fast track' authority. Without it they can pick pampango Dec 2014 #35
I do not think there is anything wrong with recognizing similar points of view in other parties. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #37
Exactly right. arikara Dec 2014 #38
+10 nilram Dec 2014 #44
Which is a GOOD thing, and a sign woo me with science Dec 2014 #39
Beat me to it! This proves what we already knew, the UN sovereignty argument is a tool Dustlawyer Dec 2014 #24
K & R AzDar Dec 2014 #16
Outstanding post. woo me with science Dec 2014 #21
K&R. I hope it can be stopped. Overseas Dec 2014 #22
K&R Brought to you by the devout efforts of Wall St investors & servants the world over. raouldukelives Dec 2014 #23
K&R ReRe Dec 2014 #27
151 house Democrats signed a letter to the president opposing fast tracking the TPP think Dec 2014 #29
That's a good start. Faryn Balyncd Dec 2014 #33
When I click on Rec to Recommend this post, it won't recommend, and Zorra Dec 2014 #34
Kick. Too important to sink. woo me with science Dec 2014 #36
K&R! nt Mnemosyne Dec 2014 #41
The saddest thing about this is Curmudgeoness Dec 2014 #42
kick woo me with science Dec 2014 #43
How is it possible Utopian Leftist Dec 2014 #45
Remember, the first thing he did was call in the Wall Street hifiguy Dec 2014 #48
It's because of one horrifying fact that none of them will address. Rex Dec 2014 #52
Thank you. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #47
taking the bet DemandsRedPill Dec 2014 #49
Paddy Chayefsky in Network navarth Dec 2014 #50
Those of us that watched this country turn into a plutocracy are not surprised at all. Rex Dec 2014 #51
The entire planet would turn into a plutocracy under this agreement. Initech Dec 2014 #53
They either killed, bought out or flat out stole the land and imprisoned in pay-for jail cells Rex Dec 2014 #54
And Remember Kids, imthevicar Dec 2014 #55
Fcuk the TTPA fingrin Dec 2014 #56
We need to be allowing the negiotiation of lower bulk rates in the US (it was prohibited by the GOP Faryn Balyncd Dec 2014 #57
k & r. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Dec 2014 #58
K&R!!!!!!!!!!! burrowowl Dec 2014 #60
kick woo me with science Dec 2014 #62
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