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msanthrope

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14. Again....why are accepting that AQAP's narrative of events is the truthful one?

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 04:02 PM

Dec 2014

You assume that waiting a day would have been significant. But you base that assumption on what a terrorist organization told other people. AQAP's shakedown artists had been holding him for 18 months....negotiating and renegotiating.

I think it's horrible both hostages were murdered by AQAP.

AQAP threatened to kill Luke Somers Saturday...and I'm glad we tried to rescue him.

On Thursday, al-Qaida militants released a video showing Somers and threatening to kill him in three days if the United States did not meet the group's unspecified demands or if another rescue was attempted.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/06/hostages-killed-yemen_n_6280288.html

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Questions about the reckless U.S. rescue attempt in Yemen [View all] HomerRamone Dec 2014 OP

Reckless? lamp_shade Dec 2014 #1

How could they have known that the terrorists might have high-tech equipment like barking guard dogs HomerRamone Dec 2014 #4

I find it amazing that anyone would believe AlQaeda's claims that they were going to release msanthrope Dec 2014 #8

I don't agree with the OP but al Qaeda has released many hostages. former9thward Dec 2014 #19

True...they have released some hostages for money. But would you believe msanthrope Dec 2014 #20

I think the rescue attempt was proper. former9thward Dec 2014 #21

I think it was, too. And I cannot imagine the suffering the hostage's families msanthrope Dec 2014 #22

They couldn't wait because they had reliable intel that the hostage would be killed Saturday morning okaawhatever Dec 2014 #13

They actually did know there was another hostage....just not who msanthrope Dec 2014 #16

Yes. Thanks for adding the link nt okaawhatever Dec 2014 #17

Reckless? The US has nothing to be sorry about...these homicidal maniacs msanthrope Dec 2014 #2

True. Lolita46 Dec 2014 #3

The South African hostage is dead. He probably would have been free by now. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #5

Because you believe terrorists when they say they would have freed him? msanthrope Dec 2014 #6

As I quoted above, HomerRamone Dec 2014 #7

You are assuming a great deal here.....mainly that AQAP are truthtellers. That is an astonishing msanthrope Dec 2014 #9

Even if they didn't "know" for sure why not wait a day rather than do something so chancy? nt HomerRamone Dec 2014 #10

And if they had waited the day ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #11

No nt HomerRamone Dec 2014 #12

That's the beauty of the internet ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #23

Exactly...the armchair strategists don't have consequences. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #28

Sadly, this is a popular sport here ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #30

so don't question authority nt HomerRamone Dec 2014 #31

Posting a comment on an anonymous message board is not questioning authority. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #33

So I'm not raising questions and trying to get people to think about HomerRamone Dec 2014 #34

LOL ... Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #36

Again....why are accepting that AQAP's narrative of events is the truthful one? msanthrope Dec 2014 #14

His family and his organization believed he was morningfog Dec 2014 #44

Yes....they believed what AQAP told them. After 18 months of captivity, he was being released. msanthrope Dec 2014 #46

Well his wife had been released. And I've not read morningfog Dec 2014 #47

They'd been negotiating for 18 months. AQAP took the ransom money, and shot him anyway.nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #49

Clearly your source of information on this subject is promoting an agenda. Most reliable media okaawhatever Dec 2014 #15

AQAP had already negotiated the release of his wife. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #25

He's not dead because of the rescue attempt, he's dead because AQAP shot him. msanthrope Dec 2014 #26

Nobody is "excusing" the terrorists HomerRamone Dec 2014 #32

Actually, I find that your source does excuse terrorists. Your source seems to accept the msanthrope Dec 2014 #35

Yet they didn't shoot him for 18 months. He died because of the rescue attempt. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #38

No....he died because AQAP kidnapped him and then killed him. If you served on msanthrope Dec 2014 #39

I think AQAP is directly culpable. I think the US is indirectly culpable. That's not so hard, is it? Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #43

Um...AQAP already had the ransom money. They shot him, anyway. So, tell me again msanthrope Dec 2014 #48

This blog is nothing but propaganda and conspiracy theory. You should be ashamed you posted it here okaawhatever Dec 2014 #18

Are you better than the Guardian? HomerRamone Dec 2014 #24

He might have been alive but for the fact that AQAP shot him. msanthrope Dec 2014 #27

+100 nt okaawhatever Dec 2014 #41

And yet you didn't use the Guardian article for your post did you? No, you used a no-source CT okaawhatever Dec 2014 #45

Reckless? Blue_Tires Dec 2014 #29

i find it pretty ballsy....reckless?...ummmm NO. spanone Dec 2014 #37

But then, you're not the hostage who was about to be freed who got killed instead. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #40

no i'm not, i'm still alive. but i don't find it reckless. spanone Dec 2014 #42