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former9thward

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19. I don't agree with the OP but al Qaeda has released many hostages.

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 04:19 PM

Dec 2014

Mainly to the European countries. They pay.

In stark contrast to the US and UK, Continental nations, including Germany, France, Italy, and Spain, have directly paid ransoms to hostage-takers. The nations are in turn accused of funding terrorism, with al-Qa'ida alone making $125 million (£75 million) from global ransom transactions since 2008 - $66m (£40m) of which was made last year, the New York Times reported. It is believed that North African al-Qa'ida agents have benefited most from this indirect European funding.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/isis-hostage-threat-which-countries-pay-ransoms-to-release-their-citizens-9710129.html

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Questions about the reckless U.S. rescue attempt in Yemen [View all] HomerRamone Dec 2014 OP

Reckless? lamp_shade Dec 2014 #1

How could they have known that the terrorists might have high-tech equipment like barking guard dogs HomerRamone Dec 2014 #4

I find it amazing that anyone would believe AlQaeda's claims that they were going to release msanthrope Dec 2014 #8

I don't agree with the OP but al Qaeda has released many hostages. former9thward Dec 2014 #19

True...they have released some hostages for money. But would you believe msanthrope Dec 2014 #20

I think the rescue attempt was proper. former9thward Dec 2014 #21

I think it was, too. And I cannot imagine the suffering the hostage's families msanthrope Dec 2014 #22

They couldn't wait because they had reliable intel that the hostage would be killed Saturday morning okaawhatever Dec 2014 #13

They actually did know there was another hostage....just not who msanthrope Dec 2014 #16

Yes. Thanks for adding the link nt okaawhatever Dec 2014 #17

Reckless? The US has nothing to be sorry about...these homicidal maniacs msanthrope Dec 2014 #2

True. Lolita46 Dec 2014 #3

The South African hostage is dead. He probably would have been free by now. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #5

Because you believe terrorists when they say they would have freed him? msanthrope Dec 2014 #6

As I quoted above, HomerRamone Dec 2014 #7

You are assuming a great deal here.....mainly that AQAP are truthtellers. That is an astonishing msanthrope Dec 2014 #9

Even if they didn't "know" for sure why not wait a day rather than do something so chancy? nt HomerRamone Dec 2014 #10

And if they had waited the day ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #11

No nt HomerRamone Dec 2014 #12

That's the beauty of the internet ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #23

Exactly...the armchair strategists don't have consequences. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #28

Sadly, this is a popular sport here ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #30

so don't question authority nt HomerRamone Dec 2014 #31

Posting a comment on an anonymous message board is not questioning authority. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #33

So I'm not raising questions and trying to get people to think about HomerRamone Dec 2014 #34

LOL ... Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #36

Again....why are accepting that AQAP's narrative of events is the truthful one? msanthrope Dec 2014 #14

His family and his organization believed he was morningfog Dec 2014 #44

Yes....they believed what AQAP told them. After 18 months of captivity, he was being released. msanthrope Dec 2014 #46

Well his wife had been released. And I've not read morningfog Dec 2014 #47

They'd been negotiating for 18 months. AQAP took the ransom money, and shot him anyway.nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #49

Clearly your source of information on this subject is promoting an agenda. Most reliable media okaawhatever Dec 2014 #15

AQAP had already negotiated the release of his wife. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #25

He's not dead because of the rescue attempt, he's dead because AQAP shot him. msanthrope Dec 2014 #26

Nobody is "excusing" the terrorists HomerRamone Dec 2014 #32

Actually, I find that your source does excuse terrorists. Your source seems to accept the msanthrope Dec 2014 #35

Yet they didn't shoot him for 18 months. He died because of the rescue attempt. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #38

No....he died because AQAP kidnapped him and then killed him. If you served on msanthrope Dec 2014 #39

I think AQAP is directly culpable. I think the US is indirectly culpable. That's not so hard, is it? Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #43

Um...AQAP already had the ransom money. They shot him, anyway. So, tell me again msanthrope Dec 2014 #48

This blog is nothing but propaganda and conspiracy theory. You should be ashamed you posted it here okaawhatever Dec 2014 #18

Are you better than the Guardian? HomerRamone Dec 2014 #24

He might have been alive but for the fact that AQAP shot him. msanthrope Dec 2014 #27

+100 nt okaawhatever Dec 2014 #41

And yet you didn't use the Guardian article for your post did you? No, you used a no-source CT okaawhatever Dec 2014 #45

Reckless? Blue_Tires Dec 2014 #29

i find it pretty ballsy....reckless?...ummmm NO. spanone Dec 2014 #37

But then, you're not the hostage who was about to be freed who got killed instead. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #40

no i'm not, i'm still alive. but i don't find it reckless. spanone Dec 2014 #42