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14. Pataki and Christie are Governers.

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 04:52 PM

Dec 2014

They hold no national offices or offices with any legislative or exec branch power.

And Snowe has no power within the party. Zero. When is the last time you heard of Republicans watering down legislation to get Olympia's vote?

There are no RINO's left. They've essentially been purged from the party. And the few that do exist don't hold positions of power and don't get veto power over their legislation. When it matters the party makes them get in line and vote the way they need to, or face consequences.

Like I said, the more the merrier and I'm o.k. with bringing others who may not be "ideologically pure" along for the ride. But they don't get to run the party and they don't get to act against it without some degree of consequence or loss of influence and power within the party.

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Dean on 50 state strategy is a paean to Pragmatism and Centrism where necessary. [View all] stevenleser Dec 2014 OP

Hasn't Dean already been thrown under the bus for supporting Hillary in 2016? brooklynite Dec 2014 #1

I think Dean is still revered as a progressive hero. And he is one, but he and his winning strategy stevenleser Dec 2014 #4

I liked Dean until he gave interviews as Chairman in which he claimed our platform had a plank Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #17

That's hard to understand. Wasn't Vermont under Dean the first to approve Civil Unions? stevenleser Dec 2014 #24

i think it was a political thing on his part as he was working to get Blue Dogs elected at the time JI7 Dec 2014 #26

Are the ideologically pure Republicans a regional party? vi5 Dec 2014 #2

Arguably, yes they are. They are confined to the south and some midwest states. nt stevenleser Dec 2014 #3

O.K. then.... vi5 Dec 2014 #6

they lost their advantage in Presidential Elections JI7 Dec 2014 #7

Well, that's not how grass roots Republicans feel about their candidates. stevenleser Dec 2014 #8

Pataki and Christie are Governers. vi5 Dec 2014 #14

+100% - yes indeed! mazzarro Dec 2014 #29

where white racist christians flock together the repubs do quite well nt msongs Dec 2014 #10

and this is why he is supporting Hillary Clinton instead of his home state JI7 Dec 2014 #5

Well yes, that and Bernie as yet is not a Democrat and Dean is loyal to the party. nt stevenleser Dec 2014 #9

Some people NEVER seem to get that distinction, do they? Hekate Dec 2014 #15

You should start a thread on Elizabeth Warren's support of Reagan next. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #11

Hiring crooks as part of a rehabilitation program MannyGoldstein Dec 2014 #12

Kickin for the good Doctor Hekate Dec 2014 #13

And you keep losing. Union Scribe Dec 2014 #16

Only 4 Recs? I guess some days you just can't win. Great interview, though. Hekate Dec 2014 #18

Reality is a tough sell for some. stevenleser Dec 2014 #19

Hmmm didnt you 3rd way types do away with the good Dr? Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #20

Hmmm, didn't you purist types keep saying the 50 state strategy was the way to go? nt stevenleser Dec 2014 #21

Your the one quoting someone you 3rd wayers pitched under a bus Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #22

Nope, I always liked Dean's 50 state strategy. I await your Next bad assumption... nt stevenleser Dec 2014 #23

No assumptions. Like I said it was your group that threw him under the bus Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #28

+1 freshwest Dec 2014 #25

Only the media painted Dean as a progressive ozone_man Dec 2014 #27

But the Good Bernie STILL is not a registered Democrat, is he? Please talk him into changing .... Hekate Dec 2014 #30

That will be a tough pill to swallow. ozone_man Dec 2014 #34

Now that Obama is going against his own party on TPP...pushing one size fits all education... madfloridian Dec 2014 #31

Kick nt stevenleser Dec 2014 #32

Kicked and Recommended. Thanks for posting this interview. greatlaurel Dec 2014 #33