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derby378

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139. We don't have 20 years to wait

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 05:59 PM

Dec 2014

I could be dead in 20 years, and dammit, I want payback for sitting through the eight years of terror that were the Bush 43 administration.

We need to resurrect the 50-state strategy. Without it, our party is dead.

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Dems, It�s Time to Dump Dixie [View all] DonViejo Dec 2014 OP

great now build the dang fence to fence them off and keep them there while we move on belzabubba333 Dec 2014 #1

The millions of Dem voters who live in the South dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #7

did u really need me to put a sarcasm tag on the post belzabubba333 Dec 2014 #9

No she didn't.... CherokeeDem Dec 2014 #14

im sorry i wasnt clear - il fix it belzabubba333 Dec 2014 #16

Please do. cordelia Dec 2014 #29

already done belzabubba333 Dec 2014 #30

Our neighbor with uncontrollable blood pressure has a new insurance premium this year. Hortensis Dec 2014 #125

Oh, how sad! CTyankee Dec 2014 #142

Thank you dixiegrrrrl Brainstormy Dec 2014 #42

There's a majority of republicans on the north shore in Massachusetts graywarrior Dec 2014 #49

got room under that bus for me? Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #77

you're absolutely right Still In Wisconsin Dec 2014 #80

Then as people besieged.... zentrum Dec 2014 #98

I agree but would like to know if and when we can begin to hope to win in the south. With jwirr Dec 2014 #104

We don't have to dump anyone. We need to quit the "identity politics" altogether, IMO. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #2

plus 1000 wilsonbooks Dec 2014 #8

yes indeed--focusing on shared issues rather than party affiliation gets lots of support librechik Dec 2014 #28

4 out ot of 5 whites in the deep South vote Republican no matter what. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #69

This is very true. hifiguy Dec 2014 #78

When we finally have a socialist revolution in this country... Odin2005 Dec 2014 #83

But we still base our campaigns in the south on kissing their conservative asses Scootaloo Dec 2014 #128

YES!!!!! and double YES!!! dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #87

Amen Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #121

So right! In Dixie, Dems have survived and fought too hard, too long to be abandoned now. ancianita Dec 2014 #141

Dumping a lot of African American democrats in the South. Lex Dec 2014 #3

Thanks for pointing that out. South bashers seem to ignore or forget the cordelia Dec 2014 #34

+1 beerandjesus Dec 2014 #90

Dems, Dixie dumped you. yallerdawg Dec 2014 #4

Don't forget Gov. Don Siegelman. Octafish Dec 2014 #5

I keep re-reading all I can find about the Governor. summerschild Dec 2014 #23

crooked conflicted Justice in Alabama librechik Dec 2014 #32

Absolutely. The guy has one thing the greedheads fear: Integrity Octafish Dec 2014 #37

No such thing as "databomb" from Octafish! summerschild Dec 2014 #101

I'm more inclined to blame Karl Rove starroute Dec 2014 #47

How soon y'all forget? yallerdawg Dec 2014 #6

They came *before* the event of electing a Black man to the White House. BlueCaliDem Dec 2014 #15

Actually, it was after 1964 that all bets were off in the South. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #89

Anne Richards was a wonderful woman and excellent head of Texas. I still miss her. BlueCaliDem Dec 2014 #109

You are correct, the Dixiecrats swung to the Republican party maybe because of Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #154

I believe the only deep southern states Clinton carried was WV and GA in three person races. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2014 #45

William Jefferson Clinton is from Arkansas. yallerdawg Dec 2014 #52

My bad...He carried Arkansas twice. /NT DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2014 #53

Yay... more divisive crap on DU n/t ProdigalJunkMail Dec 2014 #84

I think someone like Elizabeth Warren Le Taz Hot Dec 2014 #10

I agree. Warren would most likely have more appeal LuvNewcastle Dec 2014 #21

What southern states that Barack Obama didn't carry in one or both of his races DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2014 #24

I'm going to jump in here. Le Taz Hot Dec 2014 #31

Gerrymandering doesn't affect Presidential races yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #62

Ah, yes. Le Taz Hot Dec 2014 #64

Yep. Many of those self-styled conservatives are unaware of how liberal they really are. arcane1 Dec 2014 #82

You're kidding, right Le Taz?? BlueCaliDem Dec 2014 #26

And I happen to believe that there are enough Le Taz Hot Dec 2014 #36

Well, she didn't help Lungergan-Grimes much, so I'm not as convinced as you are. BlueCaliDem Dec 2014 #43

Lundergan-Grimes Le Taz Hot Dec 2014 #46

Allison couldn't help herself. In a vain attempt to out conservative The Turtle she TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #143

I didn't think she ran a particularly good campaign, either. She *did* come off a bit phony, but I BlueCaliDem Dec 2014 #150

When she refused to disclose if she voted for Obama, Lugano Dec 2014 #155

I understand and did but I was begging solid voters by the end. It wasn't not good, it was gawdawful TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #160

4 out ot of 5 whites in the deep South vote Republican no matter what. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #74

I am trying to be optimistic about the generations coming up. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #96

If Reddit is any indication we Millennials are not less racist than older generations. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #100

This Nolensville, Tn? Sissyk Dec 2014 #41

I've been to Nolensville and Murfreesboro (my sister had bought her first house in Murfreesboro) BlueCaliDem Dec 2014 #63

I'm sorry about that. Sissyk Dec 2014 #120

Thank you, Sissyk. You're very kind. BlueCaliDem Dec 2014 #126

We also have a few of those barrels! haha Sissyk Dec 2014 #131

So fuck it, let's try to get David Duke back in the party, right? Scootaloo Dec 2014 #129

Yup. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #39

I'm really not convinced that EW could make inroads for us in the South. CTyankee Dec 2014 #130

Perhaps you're right Cali_Democrat Dec 2014 #149

Michael Tomasky is dead on with this description.. Mahalo Don.. Cha Dec 2014 #11

I think Florida is ok, purplish very slowly going blue nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #17

I'm sure that will drive some traffic to the beast aikoaiko Dec 2014 #12

Roosevelt and John Kennedy won much of Dixie. mmonk Dec 2014 #13

That was before the Civil Rights Act was passed and Le Taz Hot Dec 2014 #27

Both Roosevelt and JFK were allied with southern segregationists. former9thward Dec 2014 #33

Are you saying the economic ideas wouldn't mmonk Dec 2014 #44

That was before the Civil Rights Act and Nixon's Southern Strategy. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #76

Maybe benign neglect is appropriate DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2014 #18

Tomasky is either stoned or an idiot derby378 Dec 2014 #19

The problem is with some southern women that they will back what their husbands or fathers CTyankee Dec 2014 #132

Despite my opposition to our state's new Voter ID law... derby378 Dec 2014 #133

Good. I hope you do! CTyankee Dec 2014 #140

BUUUUUUUULSHIT. JaneyVee Dec 2014 #20

Couldn't have said it better! beerandjesus Dec 2014 #95

Yep. What a load of Crap. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #116

I think he nailed it; put serious resources into VA, NC, FL; not ad buys, but local races & networks hatrack Dec 2014 #22

Local races still matter - even in Texas LeftInTX Dec 2014 #110

We don't have 20 years to wait derby378 Dec 2014 #139

Well the author is right about one thing, we need to dump dixiecrats from the party totally. Rex Dec 2014 #25

I don't believe in giving up....... RationalMan Dec 2014 #35

Thanks. We haven't had a South bashing thread in what, 15 or 20 minutes? cordelia Dec 2014 #38

+1 nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #40

Yeah - Mark Twain. n/t Yo_Mama Dec 2014 #58

+1000 Glassunion Dec 2014 #91

More like, "Don't try to win Dixie by being Republican-lite" jeff47 Dec 2014 #48

Exactly. Maineman Dec 2014 #66

The Democratic Party today is vastly different in the South from what it was back when CTyankee Dec 2014 #136

I am sad for my Southern Dem brothers and Sisters. bravenak Dec 2014 #50

Or maybe we need to move back toward Bettie Dec 2014 #51

No it is time to run as real Democrats in Dixie to turn out Dem voters and like minded independents. yellowcanine Dec 2014 #54

Disagree hollowdweller Dec 2014 #55

very bad idea steve2470 Dec 2014 #56

What about all the Dems who live in the south? Yo_Mama Dec 2014 #57

The South is a drag on a progressive nation packman Dec 2014 #59

A progressive nation? yallerdawg Dec 2014 #65

And it appears by your words kentauros Dec 2014 #71

In all fairness, tho, WHO is rejecting the concept of a United States? CTyankee Dec 2014 #144

Fits my stereotype, BUT... Maineman Dec 2014 #75

Why do I even need to say it..... daleanime Dec 2014 #60

Great article. JEFF9K Dec 2014 #61

We have the Blue Wall and they do not. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #67

That would be the millions of African American Democrats that live here as well. cordelia Dec 2014 #94

Unfortunately As long as 4 out of 5 whites vote Puke down there... Odin2005 Dec 2014 #99

As long as there's even ONE Democrat in Dixie, I'm not writing them off! ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #68

That's a really stupid thing to do for two reasons aikoaiko Dec 2014 #70

+1 nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #73

It's the economy stupid. Ink Man Dec 2014 #72

Having looked at Landrieu's exit polling from November... Blue_Adept Dec 2014 #79

Extra butter on mine, please. KamaAina Dec 2014 #81

IKR, starting early this morning ... nt TBF Dec 2014 #85

Per your title heaven05 Dec 2014 #86

I have hope for the future of the south Z_California Dec 2014 #88

Dixie is getting a little more urban and blue every year. Fifty state strategy! paulkienitz Dec 2014 #92

The South is 25.7% of the population and unfortunately growing LeftInTX Dec 2014 #93

Unfortunately? I'm sure all the African-Americans moving back to the South cordelia Dec 2014 #111

By unfortunately, I mean you can't write off the South. LeftInTX Dec 2014 #119

Thanks, and I apologize if there was misunderstanding. cordelia Dec 2014 #122

No problem LeftInTX Dec 2014 #124

As a Democrat living in Texas, I am not willing to give up Gothmog Dec 2014 #97

A possible hope LeftInTX Dec 2014 #115

Why, bless their hearts. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2014 #102

Just bless their lil ol' peapickin' hearts! steve2470 Dec 2014 #137

No. I don't think so. kentuck Dec 2014 #103

Fuck that... Glassunion Dec 2014 #105

Democrats did vote mgardener54 Dec 2014 #106

Some of the worst episodes of racism historically and recently are from California NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #107

Shame on you, maybe the Democratic party doesn't need the south but A Simple Game Dec 2014 #108

No, it's time for a return to the 50 state strategy of Howard Dean. mnhtnbb Dec 2014 #112

+1 nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #134

Good idea. Lolita46 Dec 2014 #113

prima facie the thesis is crap, but we definitely can't let ourselves be lashed to the likes of MisterP Dec 2014 #114

Dumbass article. Waste of time. n/t Orsino Dec 2014 #117

End gerrymandering and get money out of politics alarimer Dec 2014 #118

What remarkably ignorant drivel. I regret I read the entire fetid piece. Luminous Animal Dec 2014 #123

Retreat! Retreat! Retreat! Scootaloo Dec 2014 #127

Better idea: Cali_Democrat Dec 2014 #151

or we can atually run liberals. Scootaloo Dec 2014 #159

I know people in Michigan just as bad gollygee Dec 2014 #135

but what is the outcome? That is what matters, right? CTyankee Dec 2014 #146

Ya know...it's gad-damned hard to commit the lives of innocents to brutality HereSince1628 Dec 2014 #138

How about we don't leave anybody behind? How about the 50-state strategy? How about we don't cave? Hekate Dec 2014 #145

WE are not the ones that have left people behind. CTyankee Dec 2014 #147

I'll.....help them pack! Derek V Dec 2014 #148

If we dump Dixie, we better importune supernatural forces to see that the California merrily Dec 2014 #152

Cool MFrohike Dec 2014 #153

Dumping an entire region of the nation would be dumb. n/t hrmjustin Dec 2014 #156

Can you really dump people that have dumped you first? PeteSelman Dec 2014 #157

I feel that way as well Tsiyu Dec 2014 #158