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TreasonousBastard

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19. I have no plan, I am merely...

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 06:02 PM

Dec 2014

countering the simplistic thinking that somehow we can miraculously win elections by being ourselves.

Sure, there are groups we can attract everywhere, but the reality is that within each election district, state, or whatever the candidates have to do the counts and work on realistic expectations of who will vote and why.

That is all.

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Moving center-right for the Democrats is a failed strategy. [View all] Yavin4 Dec 2014 OP

"Not as bad" is a piss poor way of campaigning and a piss poor way of governing. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #1

It does not motivate people Yavin4 Dec 2014 #2

Bush called Hillary Sister-In-Law last week billhicks76 Dec 2014 #22

That was enough to make any REAL Dem hifiguy Dec 2014 #32

Ignore The One Poster billhicks76 Dec 2014 #47

Brutally true Populist_Prole Dec 2014 #45

The failure to present a true alternative hifiguy Dec 2014 #3

People get too caught up in trying to win a particular election than they are trying to lay out a Yavin4 Dec 2014 #4

+1 Enthusiast Dec 2014 #27

Here we go again... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #5

Would you abandon those progressive values? Scootaloo Dec 2014 #6

No, but I wouldn't be running in such a place... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #8

If you were. You would abandon your progressive values? Support someone who did? Scootaloo Dec 2014 #10

You made an example, too, but I didn't see. TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #11

Why are you so sure you wouldn't do well? Scootaloo Dec 2014 #12

Yeah, but theirs aren't... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #14

If you are consistent and unashamed of your progressive values... Yavin4 Dec 2014 #7

So, what do we do in the next... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #9

Nothing will change for the better by a constant retreat from liberalism Scootaloo Dec 2014 #15

I didn't say retreat-- said don't campaign... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #16

What if they sought the votes of the 'black folks' and immigrants and 'homosexuals' you mention? Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #17

I have no plan, I am merely... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #19

So, just how would you campaign on your progressive values? AlbertCat Dec 2014 #23

More God, more God, more God! Enthusiast Dec 2014 #28

You say "I love my wife and want the best for her." Vincardog Dec 2014 #33

OK, run for office and tell me how it worked... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #35

Send me your contribution and I will. Vincardog Dec 2014 #36

That's hilarious... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #39

It is called "Put your money where your mouth is" AKA Walk the Walk. Vincardog Dec 2014 #40

It's you point, so it should be your money. TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #41

I don't see what value continuing this would be. Vincardog Dec 2014 #42

Working-class populism n/t arcane1 Dec 2014 #37

We are not going to move center-right. No matter how loud all of 4 or 5 people yell it here on DU. Rex Dec 2014 #13

We Already Have billhicks76 Dec 2014 #24

Enjoy Thom Tillis, suckers! WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #18

Moving center-right for the Democrats is a failed strategy. AlbertCat Dec 2014 #20

And you win the thread, Mr. Cat. hifiguy Dec 2014 #31

Both Parties keep moving to the right, just like their paymasters want. blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #21

Of course it's a failed strategy. Even if a center-right Democrat wins, we lose ... Scuba Dec 2014 #25

There is a point that many don't see. sadoldgirl Dec 2014 #26

Offense wins, if you don't score points you never win aspirant Dec 2014 #46

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Dec 2014 #29

It's supposed to be a strategy that fails, but offers plausible deniability. closeupready Dec 2014 #30

The only difference between the Turd Way and the hifiguy Dec 2014 #34

Superb summation of the issue Populist_Prole Dec 2014 #44

Let me put this straight to you, I happen to be a moderate, I like a party who works to Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #38

You only have to win with the people who vote Valhallakey Dec 2014 #43