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JustAnotherGen

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18. It's also one my

Tue Dec 9, 2014, 09:51 AM

Dec 2014

Great Aunt Jenny (she died three years ago) used to describe white people not in her family. Evidently the Irish off the boat Grandfather and Cherokee grandmother of hers started using it in the 1890's. They changed those two to black on the census when their oldest daughter married a black man in 1898. I kind of see their point . . . if they were no longer a mixed race white/native couple - then they had the right.

She was black (Aunt Jenny) . Those folks down South who were born in the first 15 years of the last century pretty much used that as their 'go to' (at least in my dad's family they did) whenever describing white people who weren't in their family to us kids - that they encountered in Mississippi and Alabama back then.

Monolith - all white folks are crackers.

So there's more to my 'disapproval' than meets the eye.

And the best part of Aunt Jenny - she would always stop - look at my mom and say . . .

Oh honey I'm NOT talking about you. I'm not a racist.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] TheMastersNemesis Dec 2014 OP

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get a hobby! morningfog Dec 2014 #6

But it did remove THAT racist reply!!!! marble falls Dec 2014 #9

It looks like you pressed somebody's button, lol. morningfog Dec 2014 #5

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The fact you drew out the racist element so fast and hatefully earns a big k&r from me. Great post! marble falls Dec 2014 #7

Then behind the scenes..... Bobbie Jo Dec 2014 #10

Wow, that close? daleanime Dec 2014 #13

Closed doors, nothing. I was on that jury and I voted 'leave it alone'.... marble falls Dec 2014 #14

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Exactly the same? gollygee Dec 2014 #22

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I keep missing something. LOL n/t gollygee Dec 2014 #30

Yeah, me, too, and I'm probably glad! Now, as a native-born Floridian, Nay Dec 2014 #59

I really think outrage against the word "cracker" is an attemt to gollygee Dec 2014 #62

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I respectfully disagree. It may very well mean something nasty to you. Here in Florida.. BlueJazz Dec 2014 #26

Thanks Bobbie Jo Dec 2014 #40

In the old days on DU it was not OK. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #45

Apparently now it's just fine. DeadLetterOffice Dec 2014 #58

'Cracker' is as racist a term as 'blond' or 'Burt Bacharach fan' is. marble falls Dec 2014 #101

I have a different opinion Bobbie Jo Dec 2014 #65

+100000 !! gollygee Dec 2014 #66

Add another 100000+ marble falls Dec 2014 #103

+1 n/t area51 Dec 2014 #112

It is a word used to disparage a group of people based on their race joeglow3 Dec 2014 #70

Its a term based on attitudes and values. When I call my grandfather a "cracker", who actually was marble falls Dec 2014 #106

People don't get to decide. The term is hurtful. Ask a parent of a Down's child what they think of joeglow3 Dec 2014 #109

cracker isn't on the same level of the 'r' word. And yes, people do get to decide. When I was a ... marble falls Dec 2014 #113

I have heard people say the same thing about the n word (they r talking about an attitude, not race) joeglow3 Dec 2014 #121

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Can you remove the 'C' word in this? JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #11

Cracker is a 'c' word only on Sesame Street. marble falls Dec 2014 #15

It's also one my JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #18

This subject is close to me. Cracker doesn't offend me. Using it to claim some sort of reverse... marble falls Dec 2014 #24

She was cute JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #33

I would never have thought that people HappyMe Dec 2014 #16

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You can't judge intent JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #23

Offensive? JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #21

I just do not equate 'cracker' HappyMe Dec 2014 #32

Oh trust me JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #36

Even if one person finds it offensive, is that too bad? yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #52

I'm sorry, but I find it HappyMe Dec 2014 #64

They are the saltines of the earth. Kablooie Dec 2014 #20

You're going to hell for that. BlueJazz Dec 2014 #28

"Cracker" =/= the N word. It's a good enough term to LeftinOH Dec 2014 #27

Bingo. Being called a cracker allows a racist to "feel" victimized. marble falls Dec 2014 #31

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Only racist crackers have a problem with cracker. morningfog Dec 2014 #35

+1 nt DawgHouse Dec 2014 #115

I agree with most of that except one thing zeemike Dec 2014 #37

The demonstrations may lead to nothing rock Dec 2014 #38

I don't agree brindis_desala Dec 2014 #39

This is pretty deep but some of your sentences are incomplete. snooper2 Dec 2014 #41

Wrong gollygee Dec 2014 #43

Yes, our "master" is losing his/her touch, not responding to anybody in the thread anyway. snooper2 Dec 2014 #44

So, now DU allows the word "cracker" Le Taz Hot Dec 2014 #42

It's bullshit, LTH. We used to delete or lock threads and posts for using it. What bullshit. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #46

I think the host/jury system is a proven failure by now. Rex Dec 2014 #72

All people ought to learn these important facts: If you want to change the police forces kelliekat44 Dec 2014 #47

You should self delete this racist rant. Shame on you. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #48

The jury messed up here. TMN is using 'cracker' as a general description, not as a directed epithet. Dreamer Tatum Dec 2014 #49

In my opinion, no racial slurs whatever should be tolerated on DU. MineralMan Dec 2014 #50

Yup. Agschmid Dec 2014 #51

Absolutely agree DeadLetterOffice Dec 2014 #53

Thank you. MineralMan Dec 2014 #54

To believe that cracker is not a racist slur... TeeYiYi Dec 2014 #55

No - those words are all used against people who have been oppressed gollygee Dec 2014 #60

Oh my goodness. TeeYiYi Dec 2014 #63

Who the fuck appointed you? nt Dreamer Tatum Dec 2014 #71

Do you think white people are oppressed? gollygee Dec 2014 #74

I think sticking pins in something on the logic that you're tired of pins being stuck elsewhere Dreamer Tatum Dec 2014 #75

I just don't see why it's getting such a reaction gollygee Dec 2014 #77

Holy shit batman, we both agree on something. Rex Dec 2014 #78

So white people need to suffer and go through a horrible hardship for centuries Rex Dec 2014 #76

The word does not have a history and context associated with it that would cause offense gollygee Dec 2014 #79

Because it is a slur, no matter how many times you pretend to not know that. Rex Dec 2014 #80

I think your reasoning is strange gollygee Dec 2014 #81

Why would you say that? You think some slurs are okay then? Rex Dec 2014 #82

People could use a lot of things as a slur, but not all words have the same history and context gollygee Dec 2014 #84

Your logic is to then encourage its development as an offensive word. Dreamer Tatum Dec 2014 #85

It can't even become particularly offensive, unless there's a huge power shift gollygee Dec 2014 #86

That is complete horseshit. Utterly and completely. nt Dreamer Tatum Dec 2014 #87

The problem is, you're not uniquely entitled to determine what is offensive Dreamer Tatum Dec 2014 #83

I don't care if it's used or not gollygee Dec 2014 #88

"Faux outrage." Cluckings of the self-appointed. Dreamer Tatum Dec 2014 #89

That doesn't even make sense gollygee Dec 2014 #90

Part of the outrage is the OP's utter indifference in responding in his own thread. randome Dec 2014 #93

I think I've mainly responded to people gollygee Dec 2014 #94

Rex, I expected better from you. Nothing like that is going to happen to us white folks. marble falls Dec 2014 #108

Cracker compared to the word you know I'm talking bout...... marble falls Dec 2014 #110

Your post shows that you are very much a part of the "society who are indifferent" Renew Deal Dec 2014 #56

Geeze. It's like you discovered a new word. You used 'crackers' three times in one OP. randome Dec 2014 #57

If he'd only used it once... TeeYiYi Dec 2014 #69

"Crackers" Thespian2 Dec 2014 #61

+1 nt Dreamer Tatum Dec 2014 #68

I agree. librechik Dec 2014 #73

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You were alerted on. It wasn't me though. nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #100

Only 85 posts? I thought feather-ruffling threads... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #92

What is the word 'cracker' supposed to mean in the context of the OP ? Bonx Dec 2014 #95

Whites, which implies that "there are too many whites" in a police department. randome Dec 2014 #96

Which would be *totally* fine to say at DU! lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #98

Where do you draw the line?... TeeYiYi Dec 2014 #99

So what number brings it down to 'not too many'? Or is it a percentage? randome Dec 2014 #105

I dislike being called a cracker. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #97

'Nothing"??? One post and the OP knows "nothing" at all about human nature? nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #102

Insulting me does not make me an ally. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #118

One post and the OP know 'nothing' about human nature? You didn't answer my question. nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #120

Who calledyou, 'cracker'? What is your concept of who/what a cracker is? marble falls Dec 2014 #111

Can you change the c word to Nazis? That's what they really are. librechik Dec 2014 #104

Well it looks like the OP stirred up a nice shit storm B2G Dec 2014 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author DawgHouse Dec 2014 #114

What you said: +10000 marble falls Dec 2014 #116

Okay. How about too many white people become cops? lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #119

I don't need to see the C-word to understand how offensive the N-word is Takket Dec 2014 #117