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MineralMan

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131. Frankly, it doesn't matter to me whether any individual

Tue Dec 9, 2014, 04:29 PM

Dec 2014

doesn't feel angry about the use of a slur. I'm concerned with its effect on everyone. You aren't bothered by the term "redneck." Others are. So, I don't use it, because I have no wish to offend anyone through bigoted language.

I feel the same way about all such words. It doesn't matter if someone in the group isn't angered by a slur. Why would I care about that? I care about those who are affected, not the ones who aren't.

I'm an old white guy. I, quite frankly, don't give a damn about what people call me. However, I do care what people call other old white guys, if what they call them is a slur of some kind based on nothing more than they're talking about an old white guy. Geezer, gimper, whatever you like. Those are negative terms based on something a person has no control over. That is the very definition of a bigoted slur, and I don't like bigoted slurs.

I hope that clarifies.

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I ask all DUers who serve on juries to hide bigoted slurs. [View all] MineralMan Dec 2014 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #1

Thank you. If the community does not tolerate such usages, MineralMan Dec 2014 #3

Clearly, many in the community do tolerate such usages Gormy Cuss Dec 2014 #67

Remember Richard Pryor and Chevy Chase on SNL when they did... Stellar Dec 2014 #82

You're surprised a "go fuck yourselves" post was hidden? WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #21

LOL Stop the pity-party. Bullies can be called out without your resorting to... WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #25

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #27

Yeah, I don't *do* martyr. WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #37

Ouch! Not. nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #39

FWIW I don't think your post above should have been hidden tkmorris Dec 2014 #46

agreed G_j Dec 2014 #49

lots of that shit going on. be careful what you say. Ari? LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #59

Ain't that the truth.> Even when someone uses that "Passive-Aggressive" bullshit and calls... BlueJazz Dec 2014 #106

Me Too ProfessorGAC Dec 2014 #62

I think some are not even aware of the TOS, or don't bother to read them G_j Dec 2014 #109

Jurors are not asked to enforce the TOS. pintobean Dec 2014 #115

yep, my error, G_j Dec 2014 #120

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #55

Don't let up on them, but don't get yourself bumped. I support you even when we disagree! marble falls Dec 2014 #64

LOVE YOUR SIG LINE CHISOLMTRAILDEM Skittles Dec 2014 #91

when I am responding about heaven05 Dec 2014 #66

On the new DU we have to coddle the sensitivities of racists too. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #125

No, the mods would disappear those posts pintobean Dec 2014 #132

That's my recollection. WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #152

Nah, what people don't like about the current system is too few of those posts are hidden. n/t Gormy Cuss Dec 2014 #162

I hear that loud and clear heaven05 Dec 2014 #133

You should answer them, with words unminced. WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #139

yeah, yeah yeah heaven05 Dec 2014 #140

nah Skittles Dec 2014 #93

So it becomes one big "go fuck yourselves" circle-jerk... WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #119

IT'S FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Skittles Dec 2014 #164

LOL 'Tis true, sometimes... WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #166

Time out. pintobean Dec 2014 #168

None of them will subject themselves to a jury pintobean Dec 2014 #26

Oh, looky here! Hi there. Did you alert, again perhaps? nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #29

lol. pintobean Dec 2014 #32

So are you. I remember. nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #35

Remember from when? pintobean Dec 2014 #38

How do you know this: " None of them will subject themselves to a jury" Do you know them? nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #40

wow heaven05 Dec 2014 #146

No, he dodged my question pintobean Dec 2014 #147

no he didn't heaven05 Dec 2014 #148

???? heaven05 Dec 2014 #100

I'm surprised heaven05 Dec 2014 #104

Share the elitist's "go fuck yourself," please. WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #113

Go find it yourself heaven05 Dec 2014 #116

The onus is on you, my friend, you made the accusation. WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #124

You don't merit heaven05 Dec 2014 #127

LOL Insults, victim mentality, accusations of harrassment... WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #142

Right heaven05 Dec 2014 #144

"no alert, no hide, no one spoke up about that attack on me" pintobean Dec 2014 #118

I don't alert, ever heaven05 Dec 2014 #121

Then don't complain about posts not being hidden. pintobean Dec 2014 #122

yeah heaven05 Dec 2014 #123

It's so unfair. pintobean Dec 2014 #126

This message was self-deleted by its author heaven05 Dec 2014 #129

Everybody got it the first time. pintobean Dec 2014 #135

You are being insulting to another DUer muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #134

No I'm not heaven05 Dec 2014 #138

They're not being 'snarky' muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #141

So you say heaven05 Dec 2014 #143

So you never speak up for anyone else? muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #130

I always speak up for people I heaven05 Dec 2014 #137

"Go fuck yourself" is less offensive than the racist, sexist, classist, *-ist twaddle Gormy Cuss Dec 2014 #149

I agree. WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #150

And that's a problem with the "you take your chances" approach. Gormy Cuss Dec 2014 #151

You can't tell other DUers to "go fuck themselves", period tkmorris Dec 2014 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #34

Aren't you bullying other DUers by labeling them 'bullies' pintobean Dec 2014 #41

Eh...not really Veilex Dec 2014 #98

None of that made sense tkmorris Dec 2014 #43

I had someone tell me that exact quote heaven05 Dec 2014 #56

Some animals are more equal than others - Animal Farm LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #80

I've noticed that heaven05 Dec 2014 #83

"You can't tell other DUers to "go fuck themselves", period" - Really? Veilex Dec 2014 #95

The TOS is worthless, juries override that. It's useless, it should be taken down. LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #105

You'll have to forgive me if I don't agree with you. Veilex Dec 2014 #157

I agree... hlthe2b Dec 2014 #2

Unless you are talking about gun owners. oneshooter Dec 2014 #5

If slurs attack all firearms owners, they should not be used. MineralMan Dec 2014 #8

Gun owners vkkv Dec 2014 #79

Are you a "ammosexual", do you have "the blood of children on your hands", oneshooter Dec 2014 #155

Gun's, gunpowder heaven05 Dec 2014 #96

One does not choose to be a specific gender, ethnicity, race, gender orientation, poor hlthe2b Dec 2014 #10

+1 LordGlenconner Dec 2014 #28

+2 BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #50

...and then there is "ammosexual." Eleanors38 Dec 2014 #52

You mean this guy? stone space Dec 2014 #54

Same type of inconsiderate people vkkv Dec 2014 #85

I don't understand the use of the word ammosexual. dilby Dec 2014 #73

It implies sexual arousal from guns and gun violence, or the fantasy thereof. Scootaloo Dec 2014 #111

I always thought AgingAmerican Dec 2014 #153

I think it is an attempt to make a sexual slur gender neutral... Eleanors38 Dec 2014 #167

The term borrows a slur. One of several Eleanors38 Dec 2014 #154

Endless penis talk has little to do with gender? Eleanors38 Dec 2014 #57

So if it is something you chose to do it's OK zeemike Dec 2014 #69

Exactly ... ownership of an inanimate object etherealtruth Dec 2014 #99

A juror remarked he/she would "never" hide a remark Eleanors38 Dec 2014 #60

As it should be. HERVEPA Dec 2014 #70

So you believe that it is correct and proper to insult gun owners? oneshooter Dec 2014 #156

Thank you. Again, my OP is not about any specific MineralMan Dec 2014 #6

I self identify as a "Progressive". But I don't share the "Tolerant" meme.. 2banon Dec 2014 #58

No--you are projecting something in the word "tolerance" that is so very wrong hlthe2b Dec 2014 #86

+1 Veilex Dec 2014 #101

I'm afraid you don't understand my meaning. 2banon Dec 2014 #163

I think the poster doesn't use the word "tolerance" F4lconF16 Dec 2014 #165

I 100 percent will. No exceptions for me. yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #4

I appreciate your willingness to do that. MineralMan Dec 2014 #7

What the hell happened? WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #20

Yes a thread was made this morning yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #22

Ah. Will dig it up later. WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #44

lol, you'll have a greater sense of satisfaction at the end of the day. Inkfreak Dec 2014 #75

LOL I do feel pretty good! WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #107

Yup. Agschmid Dec 2014 #9

Can I still call Barbara Bush a Pendejo? snooper2 Dec 2014 #11

Pendejo is not a slur on a recognizable group. MineralMan Dec 2014 #12

Why does she post here? Rex Dec 2014 #14

I think she trolls from time to time snooper2 Dec 2014 #16

Better watch out, I hear she has a real mouth on her. Rex Dec 2014 #19

There needs to be a master list Blue_Adept Dec 2014 #13

Bingo Android3.14 Dec 2014 #65

K&R. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2014 #15

Of course! And alert on those found librechik Dec 2014 #17

What if it's quoted like this thread: BklnDem75 Dec 2014 #23

that quote in that title heaven05 Dec 2014 #51

It didn't need to be repeated... BklnDem75 Dec 2014 #74

if you say so. heaven05 Dec 2014 #77

If someone needs a offensive slur spelled out for them to get offended... BklnDem75 Dec 2014 #90

if you say so heaven05 Dec 2014 #97

I alerted on that thread. (nt) stone space Dec 2014 #128

I do and will. Orsino Dec 2014 #24

Nice try but it won't make one bit of difference LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #30

K & R In_The_Wind Dec 2014 #33

And please don't try to justify one racial slur because it is not as bad as another Township75 Dec 2014 #36

Does this include dumbcat Dec 2014 #42

I don't use those terms myself, but being a Republican is a choice reflecting political views Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #47

True, but dumbcat Dec 2014 #88

I read a post about a waterfall that did not mention that it was wet. Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #117

Maybe because dumbcat Dec 2014 #145

That's a voluntary group, not one that a default. MineralMan Dec 2014 #110

In response to your post, I have edited the OP MineralMan Dec 2014 #112

It is a shame that some people here need to use terms that are derogatory. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #45

I always hide bigoted slurs. Always. Bobbie Jo Dec 2014 #48

I agree wholeheartedly. Too many times it gets a pass here. (nt) stone space Dec 2014 #53

I am asked to be on a jury quite often, janlyn Dec 2014 #61

Sure, if the person posting it is using it as a bigoted slur. Iggo Dec 2014 #63

I agree. We should hide posts that are clearly bigoted slurs. nt Enthusiast Dec 2014 #68

+1000 Blue_Tires Dec 2014 #71

I hope this is not fuel for a new witch hunt. zeemike Dec 2014 #72

People should just use common courtesy. dilby Dec 2014 #76

I do. And it's wierd seeing some fall over themselves defending some language. (nt) Inkfreak Dec 2014 #78

I just got spanked for agreeing that 'cracker' was a racist term. DeadLetterOffice Dec 2014 #81

What do you mean spanked? dilby Dec 2014 #84

No, no deleted or alerted on or anything. DeadLetterOffice Dec 2014 #103

I would apply the Presidential Test to the term. dilby Dec 2014 #108

if they weren't cowards they would hide ALL their passive-aggressive bullshit Skittles Dec 2014 #87

How about "redneck?" Is that still considered a slur? Or did Jeff Foxworthy neutralize it? tclambert Dec 2014 #89

I guess I don't see them like you do, MM... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #92

Even the most innocuous post with the best of intentions can create a firestorm here. n/t albino65 Dec 2014 #94

I did and include ethnic slurs. gordianot Dec 2014 #102

There are differences. rogerashton Dec 2014 #114

Frankly, it doesn't matter to me whether any individual MineralMan Dec 2014 #131

I have always vorted to hide bigoted and/or hate speech etherealtruth Dec 2014 #136

I make every jury decision I make, based on the alert and what it's alerted on and why. 99Forever Dec 2014 #158

Yes, well, everyone will do as they please, MineralMan Dec 2014 #159

And I answered. 99Forever Dec 2014 #160

It doesn't matter if it's OK with me. MineralMan Dec 2014 #161