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25. Oh, I agree

Tue Dec 9, 2014, 05:20 PM

Dec 2014

But around 2005 - 07, you couldn't bring up torture without some apologista shrieking that there was no evidence, none of it was credible, the government didn't admit to it, and "why are we talking about something that isn't happening anyway?"

I'm sorry, I forgot "Waterboarding isn't torture."

The lies, excuses and justifications for this were just as horrible then as they are now. And it turns out that what many of us have long suspected was far worse than we ever imagined. "Rectal feeding"?

I can't fucking imagine how horrible it was to a person to undergo that, and I also fear for the soul of the person that carried such an atrocity out.

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7 Most Shocking Things in the CIA Torture Report (It's Even Worse Than We Thought) [View all] Hissyspit Dec 2014 OP

It's interesting Aerows Dec 2014 #1

I remember a time when this would have been one of the most important things DU ever discussed. nt Hissyspit Dec 2014 #3

I know Aerows Dec 2014 #9

I agree with you genxlib Dec 2014 #84

Right on. Stardust Dec 2014 #87

It's also one of the few times I felt sick reading the news. deafskeptic Dec 2014 #116

I mostly stay on the Greatest Threads and Latest Threads pages... Pacifist Patriot Dec 2014 #10

Indeed n/t Aerows Dec 2014 #12

My guess is that people aren't really shocked War Horse Dec 2014 #29

Thanks Aerows Dec 2014 #30

+ 1,000 suffragette Dec 2014 #91

I hope your interpretation is the correct one. Hissyspit Dec 2014 #32

I think what's worse is that we are all more jaded. I don't think this is the true measure of Pisces Dec 2014 #92

Seems like your link is missing (if you intended one) - nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #2

Fixed. Thanks. nt Hissyspit Dec 2014 #4

But the real point is nichomachus Dec 2014 #5

Pelosi did something. She said, "Impeachment is off the table." Enthusiast Dec 2014 #48

Good damn point . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #58

Nobody responds because there is nothing to say other than the obvious Blecht Dec 2014 #6

Hey Aerows Dec 2014 #14

Hi Blecht Dec 2014 #109

Me too Aerows Dec 2014 #110

K&R Solly Mack Dec 2014 #7

"Shocked" in the Casablanca sense, of course. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #8

A Senate Report Aerows Dec 2014 #11

The International Committee of the Red Cross is not a "random source." True Blue Door Dec 2014 #21

Oh, I agree Aerows Dec 2014 #25

Good one. calimary Dec 2014 #46

hard to imagine marions ghost Dec 2014 #13

Unfortunately Aerows Dec 2014 #17

There are those who are sociopaths. And then there are those who are not sociopaths, but msanthrope Dec 2014 #63

I think I get marions ghost Dec 2014 #99

Where are they now? Could be living down the block or in our towns in a place of power lunasun Dec 2014 #83

It is important to realize marions ghost Dec 2014 #108

It looks like they turned to Israel nilesobek Dec 2014 #105

Look up the Milgram experiments Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #106

Disagree somewhat marions ghost Dec 2014 #107

Can you give me a cite on that replication? Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #117

You'll have to look up the studies marions ghost Dec 2014 #119

Thanks Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #120

Kick and rec for visibility, hifiguy Dec 2014 #15

Not to mention 4,900 pages of shit so horrible that it had to be redacted. Scuba Dec 2014 #16

I think the "rectal feeding" Aerows Dec 2014 #19

You're kidding, right? derby378 Dec 2014 #23

What HASN'T been redacted Aerows Dec 2014 #27

wondering if the redactions are the NAMES of those hopemountain Dec 2014 #67

The whole business Aerows Dec 2014 #68

same here. for some of us, it is numbing. hopemountain Dec 2014 #72

No, not kidding. Scuba Dec 2014 #37

About 6,000 pages, 480 of which are released in the summary form Posteritatis Dec 2014 #44

Well, since MY tax dollars paid for all of these interrogations... derby378 Dec 2014 #45

I wonder if the interogation of Sheik Khalid Mohammed's children azurnoir Dec 2014 #40

Irony. It seems Americans are the only ones who didn't know this shit. n/t jtuck004 Dec 2014 #18

Why is it I am not surprised? gordianot Dec 2014 #20

K&R stage left Dec 2014 #22

People should go to jail over this. gollygee Dec 2014 #24

If anyone does Aerows Dec 2014 #26

Didn't Obama call these people patriots? Autumn Dec 2014 #33

Obama stopped the torture program on his first day in the White House. Major Hogwash Dec 2014 #42

Did he or did he not call them patriots? Let me answer that for you. Yes he did. n/t Autumn Dec 2014 #50

Yes he sure as hell did. cwydro Dec 2014 #52

Yes, he did call them patriots. And, for my part, I think this is still going on.. truth2power Dec 2014 #56

Yes, he did. woo me with science Dec 2014 #112

Whoever our Torquemadas are, they need to be identified and put Cleita Dec 2014 #28

This is what we do. Does anyone out there care? Autumn Dec 2014 #31

1. Should read: tortured to death grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #34

And this just covers what the CIA did Oilwellian Dec 2014 #35

K & R AzDar Dec 2014 #36

Nothing in this report surpries me azurnoir Dec 2014 #38

K & R and I'm afraid Lifelong Protester Dec 2014 #39

K & R Hun Joro Dec 2014 #41

Ashamed. Heartbroken. Embarrassed. Tatiana Dec 2014 #43

You're not alone, Tatiana. calimary Dec 2014 #47

Kicked Enthusiast Dec 2014 #49

Just like WWII had Josef Mengele doing pain and torture experiments LiberalArkie Dec 2014 #51

^^^THIS^^^ Auggie Dec 2014 #53

If it's not enough... kacekwl Dec 2014 #54

K&R WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #55

The Americans responsible for doing this have to go to jail for their crimes . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #57

If you think we won't be torturing anymore ...I have a bridge to sell you. L0oniX Dec 2014 #59

The neocons have fucked this country up. blackspade Dec 2014 #60

K&R n/t catchnrelease Dec 2014 #61

Eric Holder Is going to do nothing warrant46 Dec 2014 #62

i wonder drray23 Dec 2014 #77

The ruling class marches in lockstep on this one warrant46 Dec 2014 #89

left out the $7 billion paid to psychologists vlyons Dec 2014 #64

7 Billion? genxlib Dec 2014 #82

The shocking list at the Mother Jones article is even worse than AlterNet's. countryjake Dec 2014 #65

Just think.... paleotn Dec 2014 #66

Disgusting. Can't wait for that chimpmeister Bush to be arrested and tried for war crimes under the Warren Administration. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2014 #69

Here's hoping George W. Bush lives to a ripe old age . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #73

The report also says Bush was kept in the dark by the CIA until 2006. OneCrazyDiamond Dec 2014 #100

Do you genuinely believe that to be true? another_liberal Dec 2014 #101

What part? OneCrazyDiamond Dec 2014 #102

Well said . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #103

Disgusting. Can't wait for that chimpmeister Bush to be arrested and tried for war crimes under the Warren Administration. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2014 #70

Disgusting. Can't wait for that chimpmeister Bush to be arrested and tried for war crimes under the Warren Administration. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2014 #71

K & R (n/t) bread_and_roses Dec 2014 #74

The torture was never meant to reveal information. Kablooie Dec 2014 #75

That, apparently, is what many Americans really wanted, too. Hissyspit Dec 2014 #81

So both murder and rape are permissible if done by the government Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #76

Barry will retreat into the woodwork on this one warrant46 Dec 2014 #90

"Rectal feeding" - that just sounds so wrong on so many levels. Initech Dec 2014 #78

k and r and bookmarking for later. have had about all the horrors I can take tonight. niyad Dec 2014 #79

K&R ReRe Dec 2014 #80

I am enraged. F4lconF16 Dec 2014 #85

Isn't Gitmo still open? Didn't they have a hunger strike a while back? my morning pages Dec 2014 #86

It's not still happening. CJCRANE Dec 2014 #88

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #94

And how do we know "It's not still happening"?? rhett o rick Dec 2014 #98

K&R for truth. nt Mnemosyne Dec 2014 #93

Kick. Iggo Dec 2014 #95

0. 7 Most Shocking Things in the CIA Torture Report (It's Even Worse Than We Thought) wagepeace Dec 2014 #96

If there is a hell, Bush, Cheney, Yoo, Rummie, Rice, lark Dec 2014 #97

If there's a hell, we're all going! LOL. Iggo Dec 2014 #113

Agree . Better to get them now than " later " lunasun Dec 2014 #114

K&R for exposure. JEB Dec 2014 #104

kick woo me with science Dec 2014 #111

Beyond what this did to the victims whom are protected under the Geneva Convention, what did this do mother earth Dec 2014 #115

Let's be honest - if the skin colors of the victims and perpetrators of this were reversed, KitSileya Dec 2014 #118

kick woo me with science Dec 2014 #121