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In reply to the discussion: A profound thanks to those who invoke FDR and the New Dealers [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)97. Of course. The conservative base does not support the TPP either, though their politicians do.
The Republican Conservatives probably don't want a fast track because they want to make sure it doesn't help the 99% at all. Basically they don't trust Pres Obama.
Liberals of course object to the fast track method because of it's lack of transparency.
Liberals of course object to the fast track method because of it's lack of transparency.
I agree that they don't trust (or like) Pres Obama.
Some liberals certainly object to fast track on transparency grounds. Of course, the 'secret' negotiations that have gone on for years have done so without fast track. The transparency may not be related to fast track but to other factors.
Also, liberals and Democrats are the only group that does support fast track.
Here's a Pew poll from last month:
Americans overall are lukewarm about the two major trade deals under negotiation the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP), a free trade agreement between the European Union and the U.S., and the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), a free trade deal between the U.S., Canada and 10 Asian-Pacific countries. About half (53%) of Americans see TTIP as a good thing and 55% say the same about TPP. Democratic support for both treaties is stronger than that of Republicans: 60% of Democrats see TTIP as a good thing compared with 44% of Republicans, while 59% of Democrats look favorably on TPP compared with 49% of Republicans.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/11/07/why-cant-we-all-get-along-challenges-ahead-for-bipartisan-cooperation/
While a number of Tea Party Republicans voted in favor of the three Obama-promoted free-trade agreements in 2011, they are viewing the TPP differently because of its magnitude and due to pressure from the Republican base. Because of its massive size, the TPP has captured a lot more attention from the Right than the Korea pact ever did, Stamoulis says. With Republicans base much more engaged on the TPPthe Tea Party Nation and others opposing itI expect to see a lot more Republican opposition this time around, and indeed, we already are seeing that. The visceral dislike of Obama by many on the Right may add fuel to rightist opposition to the TPP and the fast-track procedure, Stamoulis concedes, but he points out that opposition to corporate-style globalization has been mounting among Republican voters for some time. Polls showed that Republican voters opposition to free-trade agreements existed back during the Bush administration as well, he notes.
http://truth-out.org/news/item/22547-obamas-pacific-deal-would-deepen-income-divide
http://truth-out.org/news/item/22547-obamas-pacific-deal-would-deepen-income-divide
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Katznelson's book, and Coates's journalism, have really made me rethink the postwar prosperity
Recursion
Dec 2014
#8
Yes, the White Working Class, she.. this is a Whole Different Era.. FDR was great and I appreciate
Cha
Dec 2014
#16
He either went along with southern senators, or there would have been no programs at all
eridani
Dec 2014
#13
He definitely started the Civil Rights ball rolling. And at a time when it was pretty much unheard
sabrina 1
Dec 2014
#38
Actually, Teddy Roosevelt first asked an African-American to eat at his table in the White House.
JDPriestly
Dec 2014
#65
Eleanor also championed Marian Anderson when she was banned from singing by the Daughters of
jwirr
Dec 2014
#64
I agree. She was as much our leader as was her husband. They made a wonderful team.
jwirr
Dec 2014
#72
A shameless "Let's Rewrite History" Third Way strawman post. "In June 1941, Roosevelt issued
Zorra
Dec 2014
#43
There's been a lot of realized HOPE from President Obama.. but, you actually have to know
Cha
Dec 2014
#15
Yes, that's why he signed off on the massive food stamp cuts. The hungry are so hopeful.
RiverLover
Dec 2014
#17
I didn't say shite was perfect.. I said there's been a lot of good but you have to actually
Cha
Dec 2014
#19
Most states have rethug governors so it isn't hopeful. Sad it had to pass on the federal level.
RiverLover
Dec 2014
#20
Thank you.. I don't think Obama is bad at all.. It's sad that there's such monsters in Congress..
Cha
Dec 2014
#22
Really? I know one of those food stamp recipients. He was a disabled young father of two
sabrina 1
Dec 2014
#51
Yes, Paul Ryan was soundly defeated in 2012, yet we got his punitive budget anyway
Doctor_J
Dec 2014
#55
Oh, it's just you with your personal attacks that say everything about poor you and
Cha
Dec 2014
#33
Yes shame on us that want CHANGE. While Pres Obama may win your heart with his
rhett o rick
Dec 2014
#74
The only HOPE we have with Pres Obama is that we HOPE he doesn't appoint more Conservatives.
rhett o rick
Dec 2014
#73
you have fallen for the fucking rightwing meme that he hasn't been a successful President...
VanillaRhapsody
Dec 2014
#29
Pres Obama and the Right-Wing agree on the TPP. Hello. I am guessing you are on board.
rhett o rick
Dec 2014
#76
What in that batch of rhetoric has he actually done? It's one thing to say you favor something
rhett o rick
Dec 2014
#82
Don't even try. I've been around the merry-go-round with this one over this very subject
cui bono
Dec 2014
#88
We were discussing the President and his obsession with the middle class killing TPP.
rhett o rick
Dec 2014
#114
You know I hope that the fast track authority vote is separate from the vote on the TPP??
rhett o rick
Dec 2014
#96
Of course. The conservative base does not support the TPP either, though their politicians do.
pampango
Dec 2014
#97
Do you have an explanation why the Conservatives don't like Free Trade Agreements? nm
rhett o rick
Dec 2014
#98
Not really. Suspicion of foreigners - immigration, trade, foreign aid, "us vs them" - might
pampango
Dec 2014
#103
Great post. Many will give Obama a lot of credit for his accomplishments, including Krugman, but
pampango
Dec 2014
#34
I'm glad FDR accomplished so much.. and had the help to do it. I'm grateful for what Pres Obama
Cha
Dec 2014
#75
Huge K&R The corporate machine works hard to narrow our perspective and awareness,
woo me with science
Dec 2014
#35
He definitely did have the welfare of the people in mind. Listening to his fireside chats
sabrina 1
Dec 2014
#36
Sounds like I missed a documentary with a 19th-century "great man" approach to history
BainsBane
Dec 2014
#83
Your appreciation of Frankin and Eleanor warms my heart. Continue studying him and that era.
appalachiablue
Dec 2014
#84
There's a segment of the population out there still fighting "commies".
Spitfire of ATJ
Dec 2014
#86
