I'm sorry Obama, those who sodomized Iraqi boys in front of their mothers, are NOT patriots

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52. As to your last paragraph. Yes, I believe the CIA would not have been involved with legal, known

military prisons and the military wouldn't be involved with "black sites".

The military has different laws about what they can and can't do, also international law applies when they are engaged in warfare (as in Iraq and Afghanistan). The US gov't wouldn't have the military involved in something like a black site because it could cause too much trouble. Also, the military isn't as "off the books" as the CIA is. Soldiers have to be accounted for, they can't just go missing for a couple of months while they work at a black site. With some of the more elite special forces there is much less oversight, but they have different uses for them. It wouldn't make sense for them to be torturing or interrogating prisoners at a black site. It isn't their skill set.

I don't think the gov't/CIA would have soldiers involved in taking prisoners to a black site. Again, just because of the accountability factor and international law. I can see the CIA taking someone they captured to a legal military site (namely if the capture were known to the public).

Look at how the events at Abu Grahib came to light in pretty short order. The non-special operations people in the military have a hard time keeping secrets. If the regular military were involved in torture and extraordinary rendition we'd have known about it much sooner.