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A profound thanks to those who invoke FDR and the New Dealers [View all] DerekG Dec 2014 OP

FDR definitely had the welfare of the white working class in mind Recursion Dec 2014 #1

Key word. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #7

Katznelson's book, and Coates's journalism, have really made me rethink the postwar prosperity Recursion Dec 2014 #8

I'm sorry, but no. Just no, dude. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #67

Not really. The wage floor was set to support a family of four on one income Warpy Dec 2014 #9

Nice post, Warpy! Enthusiast Dec 2014 #12

Yes, the White Working Class, she.. this is a Whole Different Era.. FDR was great and I appreciate Cha Dec 2014 #16

This era is the result of people reversing FDR's policies. Octafish Dec 2014 #56

Exactly. n/t whathehell Dec 2014 #60

+10000000 woo me with science Dec 2014 #109

Why does he support TPP? pangaia Dec 2014 #66

That wasn't how it was *intended*, though.(yes, that's the key word!) AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #69

Text from FDR State of the Union Address, 1944: bvar22 Dec 2014 #70

And I love you for not shutting up about it Bvar dflprincess Dec 2014 #79

fellow FDR Dem here, bvar22, Please never shut up!!! Nice post. Thanks~ RiverLover Dec 2014 #81

love your post. Stellar Dec 2014 #91

He either went along with southern senators, or there would have been no programs at all eridani Dec 2014 #13

I don't blame him for feeling that way, TBH...... AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #68

Not really the case. NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #99

Good smear! You're in fine form! Scuba Dec 2014 #21

how is that a smear ? JI7 Dec 2014 #23

Constant practice. n/t QC Dec 2014 #30

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He definitely started the Civil Rights ball rolling. And at a time when it was pretty much unheard sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #38

But since you and I are purists, we hate FDR MannyGoldstein Dec 2014 #39

I didn't know that, that he didn't do everything instantly!!! sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #40

That wing keeps breaking up into smaller and smaller sub-committees. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2014 #41

"I welcome their hatred" whathehell Dec 2014 #62

Actually, Teddy Roosevelt first asked an African-American to eat at his table in the White House. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #65

Eleanor also championed Marian Anderson when she was banned from singing by the Daughters of jwirr Dec 2014 #64

That was a beautiful episode. MannyGoldstein Dec 2014 #71

I agree. She was as much our leader as was her husband. They made a wonderful team. jwirr Dec 2014 #72

A shameless "Let's Rewrite History" Third Way strawman post. "In June 1941, Roosevelt issued Zorra Dec 2014 #43

Thank you Zorra. hifiguy Dec 2014 #47

Yep, hifiguy, I believe you did just that. Zorra Dec 2014 #50

Superb post. woo me with science Dec 2014 #58

Thank you, the rewriting of history is a problem when the facts are sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #104

What an impressive post. pacalo Dec 2014 #2

My paternal grandfather was a huge FDR man. WhiteAndNerdy Dec 2014 #3

both my Grandparents voted for FDR and were lifelong Democrats... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #27

My Mum said the very same thing, almost word-for-word. n/t ReRe Dec 2014 #85

FDR's greatest speech, January 6, 1941. longship Dec 2014 #4

Yes, he was elected four times for a reason. PSPS Dec 2014 #5

Nice smear on a successful Democratic President.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #28

The poster wasn't smearing FDR, s/he was praising him. sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #37

No you got the wrong President... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #44

+10000000000000 woo me with science Dec 2014 #42

Exactly!!! sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #49

With huge majorities, which mean that lots of Republicans voted for him Doctor_J Dec 2014 #57

K&R. Obama promised hope. FDR delivered hope. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #6

There's been a lot of realized HOPE from President Obama.. but, you actually have to know Cha Dec 2014 #15

Yes, that's why he signed off on the massive food stamp cuts. The hungry are so hopeful. RiverLover Dec 2014 #17

I didn't say shite was perfect.. I said there's been a lot of good but you have to actually Cha Dec 2014 #19

Most states have rethug governors so it isn't hopeful. Sad it had to pass on the federal level. RiverLover Dec 2014 #20

Thank you.. I don't think Obama is bad at all.. It's sad that there's such monsters in Congress.. Cha Dec 2014 #22

Total agreement there! Not fun to think about though. {{shudder}} nt RiverLover Dec 2014 #26

Really? I know one of those food stamp recipients. He was a disabled young father of two sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #51

Sorry but I have to focus on the negatives when I see them every day. rhett o rick Dec 2014 #77

Yes, Paul Ryan was soundly defeated in 2012, yet we got his punitive budget anyway Doctor_J Dec 2014 #55

Propaganda is a low, disreputable occupation. woo me with science Dec 2014 #32

Oh, it's just you with your personal attacks that say everything about poor you and Cha Dec 2014 #33

Are you and Pro Sense good friends? Phlem Dec 2014 #53

Yes shame on us that want CHANGE. While Pres Obama may win your heart with his rhett o rick Dec 2014 #74

Come on... they're not falling for just a smile. cui bono Dec 2014 #87

+100000000* VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #45

Obama has done a lot of good things. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #46

The only HOPE we have with Pres Obama is that we HOPE he doesn't appoint more Conservatives. rhett o rick Dec 2014 #73

And which your post is completely devoid of... cui bono Dec 2014 #95

you have fallen for the fucking rightwing meme that he hasn't been a successful President... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #29

Pres Obama and the Right-Wing agree on the TPP. Hello. I am guessing you are on board. rhett o rick Dec 2014 #76

serious??? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #78

What in that batch of rhetoric has he actually done? It's one thing to say you favor something rhett o rick Dec 2014 #82

Don't even try. I've been around the merry-go-round with this one over this very subject cui bono Dec 2014 #88

No you didn't read the above....as it screws up your "narrative" VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #111

We were discussing the President and his obsession with the middle class killing TPP. rhett o rick Dec 2014 #114

LOL Oilwellian Dec 2014 #110

Of course...because it screws up your HRC meme! VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #112

No. 85% of republicans oppose 'fast track' authority on TPP for Pres. Obama. pampango Dec 2014 #92

You know I hope that the fast track authority vote is separate from the vote on the TPP?? rhett o rick Dec 2014 #96

Of course. The conservative base does not support the TPP either, though their politicians do. pampango Dec 2014 #97

Do you have an explanation why the Conservatives don't like Free Trade Agreements? nm rhett o rick Dec 2014 #98

Not really. Suspicion of foreigners - immigration, trade, foreign aid, "us vs them" - might pampango Dec 2014 #103

Using FDR to bash Obama treestar Dec 2014 #89

Beautiful sentiments, DerekG. I'm with you. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #10

A hearty welcome and K&R Populist_Prole Dec 2014 #11

Beautifully said, thanks. n/t MBS Dec 2014 #14

Thank you DerekG, I'm primed for a fight too! Its one worth fighting for. RiverLover Dec 2014 #18

For Many "Boomer's" fredamae Dec 2014 #24

FDR welcomed the hatred of the Wall $treeters hifiguy Dec 2014 #48

One is left to wonder what FDR would... 99Forever Dec 2014 #31

Great post. Many will give Obama a lot of credit for his accomplishments, including Krugman, but pampango Dec 2014 #34

I'm glad FDR accomplished so much.. and had the help to do it. I'm grateful for what Pres Obama Cha Dec 2014 #75

Apples and oranges treestar Dec 2014 #90

Huge K&R The corporate machine works hard to narrow our perspective and awareness, woo me with science Dec 2014 #35

This is so true. Yo_Mama Dec 2014 #54

He definitely did have the welfare of the people in mind. Listening to his fireside chats sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #36

Yeah, that's what's missing today. Yo_Mama Dec 2014 #52

There are a few points to remember though sadoldgirl Dec 2014 #59

All very true. And sobering... nt RiverLover Dec 2014 #63

He was great.. whathehell Dec 2014 #61

Now you see why Republicans want to ... JEFF9K Dec 2014 #80

Sounds like I missed a documentary with a 19th-century "great man" approach to history BainsBane Dec 2014 #83

The program was much richer and more nuanced than you imply. MBS Dec 2014 #94

Your appreciation of Frankin and Eleanor warms my heart. Continue studying him and that era. appalachiablue Dec 2014 #84

Thank you for this wonderful,wonderful post MBS Dec 2014 #93

Personal aside - what I noticed during the Reagan era was not only truedelphi Dec 2014 #101

yeah, I know what you mean. MBS Dec 2014 #105

There's a segment of the population out there still fighting "commies". Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #86

Whenever I Jamaal510 Dec 2014 #106

Feel free to share this pic I made a while back.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #107

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You handled kick 100; I will add 101. n/t truedelphi Dec 2014 #102

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Love your post...my grandparents were FDR Dems Oilwellian Dec 2014 #113

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