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kpete

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Sat Apr 21, 2012, 11:58 PM Apr 2012

More than bloody head revealed: Zimmerman photo shows police lies [View all]

SAT APR 21, 2012 AT 07:09 PM PDT
More than bloody head revealed: Zimmerman photo shows police lies
by willisnewton

Something is not right here.
Either the photo is wrong or else Timothy Smith's report is wrong.
And now here is the real rub: there is no ongoing outside investigation of Sanford PD, or Norm Wolfinger's office.


This photo appeared in an ABC news exclusive. It seems to show a bloody head that belongs to George Zimmerman.



CHECK THIS OUT (& compare the 2):
link to abc exclusive photo of a bloody head
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeandodge/6954519086/in/photostream/
brightened version - luminince only changed

What else does it show? Look closely... the individual pictured seems to be talking on a cell phone, not in handcuffs as far as one can tell. His right arm is visible but his left is not, nor does it seem to be in proximity to it. This guy is not being treated as a suspect.

When was it taken? timestamp from photo (screenshot) Three minutes after the shooting, before a second officer had arrived. Before anyone checked on Trayvon, to see if he was breathing or not.

According to the police report of one Sanford PD officer Timothy Smith, presumably the only live person there with Zimmerman, he should already be in handcuffs. Here is the language of his report:

"I was advised by dispatch that the report of shots fired was possibly coming from 1231 Twin Trees Cir.. I was then advised, after receiving multiple calls, that there was a subject laying in the grass in between the residences of 1231 Twin Trees La. and 2821 Retreat View Cir. I responded to 2821 Retreat View Cir and exited my marked Sanford police vehicle and began to canvas the area. As I walked in between the buildings I observed a white male, wearing a red jacket and blue jeans. I also observed a black male, wearing a gray hooded sweat shirt, laying face down in the grass.

I asked the subject in the red jacket, later identified as George Zimmerman (who was original caller for the suspicious person complaint), if he had seen the subject. Zimmerman stated that he had shot the subject and he was still armed. Zimmerman complied with all of my verbal commands and was secured in handcuffs. Located on the inside of Zimmerman's waist band, 1 removed a black Kel Tek 9mm PF9 semi auto handgun and holster. While I was in such close contact with Zimmerman, I could observe that his back appeared to be wet and was covered in grass, as if he had been laying on his back on the ground. Zimmerman was also bleeding from the nose and back of his head.

Shortly after securing Zimmerman, Officer Ricardo Ayala arrived on scene. I advised Officer Ayala that I had not made contact with the black male subject laying on the ground. I observed Officer Ayala make contact with the subject and attempt to get a response, but was met with negative results. Shortly after this, other officers began to arrive on scene along with SFD Rescue 38 who began to give aid to the subject laying on the ground."

link to pdf of police report
http://www.scribd.com/doc/87828890/Sanford-FL-police-report-on-Trayvon-Martin

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/21/1085377/-More-than-bloody-head-revealed-Zimmerman-photo-shows-police-lies
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Gee, wouldn't that cell phone record be interesting to have... nt MADem Apr 2012 #1
he probably called his daddy (the judge)... Sancho Apr 2012 #19
I do think he has some influence with the local police. MADem Apr 2012 #22
Connected into the network. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #24
Here's my thing mzteris Apr 2012 #2
And we'll never know if that was Trayvon's blood. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #25
How does the photo contradict Timothy Smith's report? cthulu2016 Apr 2012 #3
Ok. The cops arrived a minute or two after the shot. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #4
Excellent questions. Hope they will be answered. freshwest Apr 2012 #7
And, if there was a neighbor present, why isn't he mentioned in the above police report? dmr Apr 2012 #16
Those are the questions that need to be asked Bjorn Against Apr 2012 #23
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2012 #37
The gunshot was about 7:16:45-7:16:55; Smith's report said he arrived at 7:17 csziggy Apr 2012 #8
could be someone else's arm holding the phone to his ear TorchTheWitch Apr 2012 #10
There is a possibility his jacket had sleeves part red/part black csziggy Apr 2012 #13
his jacket doesn't TorchTheWitch Apr 2012 #33
I searched for red jackets and couldn't find one with the same color combo csziggy Apr 2012 #38
I'm guessing but I think it's probably a sports store type jacket TorchTheWitch Apr 2012 #41
If Zimmerman already handcuffed, HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #31
did you read my post? TorchTheWitch Apr 2012 #34
Does that mean this photo was taken by one of Zimmy's friend shimonitanegi Apr 2012 #12
The stupid logo is covering his head. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #26
Who would have taken the photo before the police arrived? And why? JDPriestly Apr 2012 #17
Exactly. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #30
The photo looks fake to me zeemike Apr 2012 #5
You mean blood dripping down in two directions, as if he was on top of someone? nt Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #6
gravity and body position TorchTheWitch Apr 2012 #11
There is an almost perfectly straight horizontal line dividing the bloody part of eridani Apr 2012 #14
It looks like he had a hat on and had blood splattered on him Marrah_G Apr 2012 #21
A hat on half of his head? eridani Apr 2012 #28
If they could have recovered the gauze from the ambulance bio hazard trash bin, Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #27
The man appears to be bald on top of his head treestar Apr 2012 #29
Where's the video of this? solarman350 Apr 2012 #9
nice carpeting BetsysGhost Apr 2012 #15
Here's the shot enlarged and brightened... Fumesucker Apr 2012 #18
Look at the left side blood drips: BLEEDING FROM HIS HAT???? Junkdrawer Apr 2012 #32
Actually, it looks like Trayvon Martin's hoody on the ground CommonSenseForChange May 2012 #42
Those are very superficial wounds in any case (even if they are real) markpkessinger Apr 2012 #20
like a fingernail scratch Lex Apr 2012 #39
That's someone else's arm. TroglodyteScholar Apr 2012 #35
Naw dude...did you see this picture? vaberella Apr 2012 #36
It cannot be his arm on either picture because the end portion of his sleeves are red CommonSenseForChange May 2012 #43
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