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Of course he does. As we all should. No one controls or supervises that outfit. Tatiana Dec 2014 #1
You think the CIA was ultimately responsible for JFK's assassination? nt Cali_Democrat Dec 2014 #2
no doubt in my mind Bobby too larkrake Dec 2014 #4
Sandy Serrano MinM Dec 2014 #109
Ultimately? I don't know for sure. Tatiana Dec 2014 #7
exactly! well said....n/t wildbilln864 Dec 2014 #106
+1 LiberalLoner Dec 2014 #34
+1 2naSalit Dec 2014 #96
No. But he fears the backlash if he tries to hold the thugs accountable for their crimes. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #3
Every Democratic president after Truman has been scared hifiguy Dec 2014 #5
So yeah, there's that... and RFK too. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #63
Not refuting that idea at all, but I'm curious as to what you base it on.. whathehell Dec 2014 #78
there is this new field of history called Deep Politics. librechik Dec 2014 #88
I'll check it out. n/t whathehell Dec 2014 #92
If i were him, i certainly would. Presidents come & go, the cia is here to stay. spanone Dec 2014 #6
yes nt grasswire Dec 2014 #8
If they don't have shit on you, they can make it up and sound convincing. 6000eliot Dec 2014 #9
No, he doesn't fear them. He doesn't fear the CIA or NSA and he doesn't fear the military. stevenleser Dec 2014 #10
Do you truly believe that, Steven?? kentuck Dec 2014 #13
100% I do, and very familiar to your second question. nt stevenleser Dec 2014 #15
So then he must be OK with the CIA lying to Congress, eh? Scuba Dec 2014 #66
And he must also be OK with the CIA spying on Congress, too. - nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #69
Yep, that too. Scuba Dec 2014 #70
When the story broke about the CIA spying on Feinstein's select committee, Charlie Pierce KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #71
Neither Brooklynite nor Lesser has replied. Scuba Dec 2014 #72
I edited my post to delete my specific call-out, but yeah, the silence is deafening. They KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #73
And there's rainbow colored unicorns and cotton candy clouds... Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #77
I can't help but believe that the CTs make it that much harder to engage in actual reform. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #101
I doubt BHO's in PoppyBush's inner power circle. What president is? blm Dec 2014 #11
Bill Clinton n/t librechik Dec 2014 #89
Wonderful to see many DU ers Wellstone ruled Dec 2014 #12
NSA spied on Sen. Frank Church (D-ID) in 1976. Octafish Dec 2014 #14
Frank Church was one of the great liberals. He was also one of the group of Senators who were jwirr Dec 2014 #102
Jimmy Hoffa and the Church Committee MinM Dec 2014 #110
TOS: "Don't go overboard with the crazy talk." brooklynite Dec 2014 #16
Well, you are a big help. kentuck Dec 2014 #17
All you have to do is provide evidence, and I'll stop being naive brooklynite Dec 2014 #18
You will need to take some responsibility for educating yourself. kentuck Dec 2014 #21
See he met these folks! SO that should mean you can't talk about it anymore. Rex Dec 2014 #27
... SammyWinstonJack Dec 2014 #35
I'M not saying you can't say anything... brooklynite Dec 2014 #57
Google Octafish's exqusitely researched and documented posts hifiguy Dec 2014 #22
Or, another JFK conspiracy page brooklynite Dec 2014 #23
You wrote you haven't read anything to change your mind. Octafish Dec 2014 #79
Thank you Octafish. Funny how some people's reading list can be missing large pieces of truth. n/t librechik Dec 2014 #91
You are most welcome, librechik! Here's something from Nixon to know... Octafish Dec 2014 #103
I have read your material..and I retain my position brooklynite Dec 2014 #98
You must be mixed up. I didn't call you naive. Octafish Dec 2014 #100
You may want to read Bugliosi's Reclaiming History: The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy zappaman Dec 2014 #97
I remember in college I knew a girl whose family truebluegreen Dec 2014 #54
Answer: the kind of evidence that would convince me... brooklynite Dec 2014 #58
He's either afraid, or he's OK with them lying to Congress. You apparently believe it's the latter. Scuba Dec 2014 #67
Do you believe in atoms and molecules? Those are invisible, too. librechik Dec 2014 #93
I DID read them...and it didn't change my mind brooklynite Dec 2014 #99
that handfull... wildbilln864 Dec 2014 #107
... merrily Dec 2014 #86
Yes! And I don't blame him! We all know the theories. mfcorey1 Dec 2014 #19
The President fears another 9-11 on his watch Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2014 #20
Yes, yes and yes. fadedrose Dec 2014 #24
I'd say Yes. mylye2222 Dec 2014 #25
Doubtful Lurks Often Dec 2014 #26
Sometimes I think the "unpleasant decisions" may cause them... kentuck Dec 2014 #29
Or they recognize reality isn't as simple as a discussion board wants it to be Lurks Often Dec 2014 #31
Bad choices brought about by bad choices? kentuck Dec 2014 #33
Or bad choices and worse choices forced upon them by others Lurks Often Dec 2014 #38
I wouldn't call it fear, more like worry that they have way too much Rex Dec 2014 #28
I think he does, probably justifiably so. nt intheozone Dec 2014 #30
My Housemate thinks Obama feas Assassination daredtowork Dec 2014 #32
Along with the CIA, he has another fear fadedrose Dec 2014 #44
He also wants to keep them alive. nt. daredtowork Dec 2014 #46
I don't think bu$h Sr. "quivered in fear" of the CIA Art_from_Ark Dec 2014 #47
Just because he was the head... daredtowork Dec 2014 #52
My husband has thought since day one marlakay Dec 2014 #59
The CIA needs to be dissolved. alarimer Dec 2014 #36
It has been for 60 years. hifiguy Dec 2014 #50
+ a zillion truebluegreen Dec 2014 #55
I agree. It is rotten to the core, has always been, but probably too powerful to dismantle. northoftheborder Dec 2014 #62
+ another Scuba Dec 2014 #68
This would absolve both Bushes and Reagan, of course. Dreamer Tatum Dec 2014 #37
It would absolve all of them. And, if true, we may as pack it in and take up knitting. merrily Dec 2014 #82
Obviously, the CIA has him under their thumb. 99Forever Dec 2014 #39
Do you think if he was being threatened and came out and said so he would be ignored? Autumn Dec 2014 #40
Then why do they get away with so much illegal activity? Rex Dec 2014 #43
Because no President bothers to control them. When a President who is a Democrat Autumn Dec 2014 #49
Yeah that is a good point. Rex Dec 2014 #51
Which kinda brings us back to the original quesiton: truebluegreen Dec 2014 #56
Also, Obama was a member of the elite Senate club... kentuck Dec 2014 #61
do you think that... wildbilln864 Dec 2014 #108
I doubt it Derek V Dec 2014 #41
No, I don't think our President is a coward. n/t zappaman Dec 2014 #42
Fear of something or someone need not make one a 'coward'. Fear can be KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #80
I say no (nt) bigwillq Dec 2014 #45
not at all JI7 Dec 2014 #48
I'm sure he is madokie Dec 2014 #53
I would if I were he. But if you listen to a lot of DUers, BHO approves of torture and probably ... Hekate Dec 2014 #60
I saw DUers say he said some of the torturers are patriots and I saw DUers say Amnesty merrily Dec 2014 #84
Well, he has a family... Tom Ripley Dec 2014 #64
Hell, we should all fear the CIA and should demand it's demise. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #65
Yes and no. H2O Man Dec 2014 #74
I have always assumed that to be the case. nt tblue37 Dec 2014 #75
I have no doubt. CIA is another beyond control criminal organization. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #76
I doubt it. merrily Dec 2014 #81
You have to be really dumb or really naive RedCappedBandit Dec 2014 #83
Personally my speculation lately is that retribution would be in the form of a mushroom cloud hootinholler Dec 2014 #85
Absolutely. librechik Dec 2014 #87
He has no fear of sending others to war. grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #90
I think he is given 3 choices. a) send troops. or b) send MORE troops. librechik Dec 2014 #94
I find the concept of a kept president almost treasonous behavior, if true bigtree Dec 2014 #95
It's worse: he's in The Bubble Nevernose Dec 2014 #104
very likely. n/t wildbilln864 Dec 2014 #105
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