Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
7. Don't worry. This fight has just begun.
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 04:57 AM
Dec 2014

The data collection will become an embarrassment. Sooner or later there will be a huge scandal. If there isn't then the collection will prove ineffective and harmless.

We all know that we are being snooped upon. So far as we know, thus far, the information has not been used for wrongful purposes -- with the exception of the CIAs snooping on Congress during the preparation of the torture report (if that counts).

But sooner or later, the snoopers will way overstep. It's just the nature of things. This kind of power corrupts.

The practice will be sharply curtailed sooner or later. It's a boondoggle and won't serve the purpose it is intended officially to serve. It will degenerate into a sort of political blackmail device. That is when its true nature will be understood by many people and there will be an outcry for change.

It will happen. It's the way these things go in America.

The government cannot keep that many records on ordinary people secret for very long -- especially if they act on the information within the records. It's not going to work.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

I watched C-SPAN for the majority of the day yesterday. SamKnause Dec 2014 #1
Can't disagree with you there. joshcryer Dec 2014 #2
I don't have a clue even where to start. SamKnause Dec 2014 #3
BASTARDS grasswire Dec 2014 #4
Big thanks to you for posting this. I ran across it about 24 hrs. ago snappyturtle Dec 2014 #5
NSA spying keeps over 400k people in jobs. joshcryer Dec 2014 #9
KICK! nt snappyturtle Dec 2014 #30
How could it get anything but worse? DeSwiss Dec 2014 #6
What kind of grandmother lets her grandson cheat like that? JDPriestly Dec 2014 #8
Please don't take this the wrong way, you are certainly free to raise your child in any manner Trillo Dec 2014 #16
Don't worry. This fight has just begun. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #7
Obviously they don't intend for it to go awry. joshcryer Dec 2014 #10
You have really bought up a good point. What a backroom method for tptb snappyturtle Dec 2014 #31
So, basically, we're back to the pre-FISA days before 1978, legally Recursion Dec 2014 #11
FISA has been a kangaroo rubber stamp court since the PATRIOT Act. joshcryer Dec 2014 #13
Well if you have UglyGreed Dec 2014 #12
Congress Quietly Bolsters NSA Spying in Intelligence Bill jakeXT Dec 2014 #14
I always wonder what is going on... ReRe Dec 2014 #15
I remember the stories of Big Bad Russia newfie11 Dec 2014 #17
I was trying to find that section, it seemed to be mis-titled and mis-summarized. Trillo Dec 2014 #18
Bingo! Sen. Feinstein was one busy lady. Add SA 3955 to the Senate side of snappyturtle Dec 2014 #32
Evil motherfuckers seldom comes the day without some outrage. I wonder what is snuck over the plate TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #19
You know what the solution is? joshcryer Dec 2014 #20
That is not a solution but treatment of a symptom as the disease grows worse in worse TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #21
This legislation shows that the political solution is far away. joshcryer Dec 2014 #22
I guess I'd be closer to agreement except the opposite doesn't hold. Issues with minimal interest TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #34
Section 215 of the Patriot Act is up this Spring. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #23
Our govt is really screwing us over, from every direction RiverLover Dec 2014 #24
More of the fruits of brinksmanship. HereSince1628 Dec 2014 #25
".... and the land of the freeeeeeeeeee...." truebrit71 Dec 2014 #26
Any encrypted message? Try any message. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #27
I think "technical assurance or compliance purposes" is much looser. joshcryer Dec 2014 #29
K & R historylovr Dec 2014 #28
i no longer care PowerToThePeople Dec 2014 #33
K&R and K&R and K&R..nt riderinthestorm Dec 2014 #35
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Section 309 of H. R. 4681...»Reply #7