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KingCharlemagne

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Sat Dec 13, 2014, 02:37 PM

Dec 2014

governmental shutdown is not a good thing. By 'hurt Republicans,' I meant in the purely political sense of elections having consequences.

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Why would the President support letting big banks back into the derivatives business ?? [View all] kentuck Dec 2014 OP

I've stopped trying to figure him out. But I can understand why he didn't want TwilightGardener Dec 2014 #1

Perhaps.. 99Forever Dec 2014 #2

Take your pick: either this is "the best deal they could get" on the budget... PoliticAverse Dec 2014 #3

Presidential cufflinks Ichingcarpenter Dec 2014 #4

Obama has friends in high places. I find it fucking offensive and obscene that Autumn Dec 2014 #7

+ 1000 and then some.. 7wo7rees Dec 2014 #15

+ $303 Trillion some more Octafish Dec 2014 #67

Socialism for the rich. hifiguy Dec 2014 #82

CEO class as the new Aristocracy Octafish Dec 2014 #84

+1000000000 woo me with science Dec 2014 #75

Wow. That's astounding. Good catch. RiverLover Dec 2014 #16

In. Our. Faces. woo me with science Dec 2014 #76

Also, WIC is losing some funding, Pell grants cut down in order to give banks MORE FUCKING MONEY, djean111 Dec 2014 #5

Oligarchy in a democracy costume. nt woo me with science Dec 2014 #6

Ding ding ding ding we have a WINNAH! kath Dec 2014 #9

This all day long. nt LittleBlue Dec 2014 #56

I hold no warrant for his decisions, but I think I can explain the reasoning behind them. The KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #8

D) Make the fucking republicans own what they do while they are in power. Autumn Dec 2014 #10

This is actually a consequence of my Option B. As always, though, the political KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #11

"with political ruin in the November 2016 General Election" aspirant Dec 2014 #37

Well, we know that Repubs shut down the government in Oct. 2013, 13 months KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #39

Ah, good ole 9th dimensional chess hueymahl Dec 2014 #46

Except that Democrats will be the nay votes in 2015 and they will be viewed as shutting down JDPriestly Dec 2014 #63

"Nays" were no problem for the repubs for 6 years aspirant Dec 2014 #70

Bad timing on that, though. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #53

Because Obama is not fighting this, he will be blamed for it when things go wrong. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #60

You can't claim duress when you actively push for it. Autumn Dec 2014 #66

Arm and arm with Jamie whipping up votes? aspirant Dec 2014 #71

I think you captured the essence of the debate... kentuck Dec 2014 #12

"Fearless" is the flipside of 'hubris' and 'arrogance'. Republicans since 1980 have KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #18

That is a great breakdown of his choices. Rex Dec 2014 #14

By 'constitutes' I assume you meant to type 'constituents'? The rider KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #17

There is no good answer, they should be finishing and passing on the bills WEEKS in advance Rex Dec 2014 #20

You'll hear no disagreement from me. Please note that my efforts to explain a mindset should KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #33

"should be nationalized" aspirant Dec 2014 #38

Either. Current banking rules allow the FDIC to seize insolvent KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #42

I suspect the smarter investors ... GeorgeGist Dec 2014 #30

"a govermental shut-down right now would not hurt Pepublicans" aspirant Dec 2014 #29

You enjoy national parks, don't you? I shouldn't have to explain why a KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #35

I'm willing to sacrifice national park camping aspirant Dec 2014 #44

I think you're probably right . . . Triana Dec 2014 #45

excellent! you only left out one simple point ellennelle Dec 2014 #54

Considering that Wall Street can now have another planned meltdown Rex Dec 2014 #13

If the Sherman anti-trust act is LAW aspirant Dec 2014 #32

Antitrust enforcement has been deader than Dillinger hifiguy Dec 2014 #51

But it's good for "We The People" aspirant Dec 2014 #64

Because our government is a crime syndicate whatchamacallit Dec 2014 #19

How anyone can pretend the government is not owned by Wall Street Rex Dec 2014 #21

People won't accept the depth of corruption because whatchamacallit Dec 2014 #22

Your third paragraph? treestar Dec 2014 #23

POTUS twisted arms because Citi and the other banks onecaliberal Dec 2014 #24

When has he ever *not* supported the big banks? QC Dec 2014 #25

Why allow pensions to be reduced abelenkpe Dec 2014 #26

Mindset of President: Appease base with support of liberal cultural issues. Teamster Jeff Dec 2014 #27

The man's US senate mentor was Joe Libermann HereSince1628 Dec 2014 #50

The President is bought and paid for. Jacoby365 Dec 2014 #28

Bullshit. randome Dec 2014 #40

Got it, he is smarter than us hueymahl Dec 2014 #48

I think he pretty much is smarter than most of us but leave that aside for a moment. randome Dec 2014 #73

Two things MFrohike Dec 2014 #69

That last shutdown should be trumpeted front and center. randome Dec 2014 #74

It wasn't forgotten MFrohike Dec 2014 #85

I agree. And its profoundly disappointing. But his actions pretty much spell it out for us. RiverLover Dec 2014 #43

Yep. His actions, from the days after his election in 2008 hifiguy Dec 2014 #47

Exactly LiberalLovinLug Dec 2014 #55

Tony Blair's 2014 Christmas Card nationalize the fed Dec 2014 #72

Obama too will be handsomely compensated hifiguy Dec 2014 #78

He's afraid of Republicans. GeorgeGist Dec 2014 #31

It's that huge list of Citigroup people in the executive branch. arcane1 Dec 2014 #34

Democrats who are supporting the bill always say this is compromise. Vinca Dec 2014 #36

It makes you wonder WHAT (if anything) the Democratic party stands for. BillZBubb Dec 2014 #41

All of that disappeared when the DLC sold the party hifiguy Dec 2014 #49

Isn't the line on social issues being slowly smudged aspirant Dec 2014 #77

i meant reproductive rights, same-sex marriage, etc. hifiguy Dec 2014 #79

I agree aspirant Dec 2014 #81

I think a focus on aspirant Dec 2014 #83

We sorely need that debate. BillZBubb Dec 2014 #86

alas, down from the 10% difference of a couple generations back... alterfurz Dec 2014 #87

To help Ink Man Dec 2014 #52

Because they're already prohibited from using their FDIC funds to invest in derivatives ucrdem Dec 2014 #57

None of the anti Obama crowd wants to hear that Andy823 Dec 2014 #62

Bingo. ucrdem Dec 2014 #65

Your quotes on the link aspirant Dec 2014 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Dec 2014 #58

If you think this bill is bad, just wait. MineralMan Dec 2014 #59

This is the answer to your question. SamKnause Dec 2014 #61

Who said he supports that? True Blue Door Dec 2014 #68