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MineralMan

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59. If you think this bill is bad, just wait.

Sat Dec 13, 2014, 04:31 PM

Dec 2014

There's much worse to come, starting in January. Much, much worse. President Obama is going to be presented with much he should, but may not be able to veto. Some things about our federal government simply must continue, and no President will be willing to preside over a shutdown of government. That simply is not done.

Watch what happens in Congress in 2015. There will be noxious amendments attached to every bill that is essential. Every last one of them.

We lost Congress in 2014. We should not have, but we did. We will pay dearly for that. Very dearly. I doubt I'm even able to imagine what will happen in the next two years, but 2015 will be the worst, since nobody in Congress has to be re-elected in 2015.

I expect major turmoil during the year.

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Why would the President support letting big banks back into the derivatives business ?? [View all] kentuck Dec 2014 OP

I've stopped trying to figure him out. But I can understand why he didn't want TwilightGardener Dec 2014 #1

Perhaps.. 99Forever Dec 2014 #2

Take your pick: either this is "the best deal they could get" on the budget... PoliticAverse Dec 2014 #3

Presidential cufflinks Ichingcarpenter Dec 2014 #4

Obama has friends in high places. I find it fucking offensive and obscene that Autumn Dec 2014 #7

+ 1000 and then some.. 7wo7rees Dec 2014 #15

+ $303 Trillion some more Octafish Dec 2014 #67

Socialism for the rich. hifiguy Dec 2014 #82

CEO class as the new Aristocracy Octafish Dec 2014 #84

+1000000000 woo me with science Dec 2014 #75

Wow. That's astounding. Good catch. RiverLover Dec 2014 #16

In. Our. Faces. woo me with science Dec 2014 #76

Also, WIC is losing some funding, Pell grants cut down in order to give banks MORE FUCKING MONEY, djean111 Dec 2014 #5

Oligarchy in a democracy costume. nt woo me with science Dec 2014 #6

Ding ding ding ding we have a WINNAH! kath Dec 2014 #9

This all day long. nt LittleBlue Dec 2014 #56

I hold no warrant for his decisions, but I think I can explain the reasoning behind them. The KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #8

D) Make the fucking republicans own what they do while they are in power. Autumn Dec 2014 #10

This is actually a consequence of my Option B. As always, though, the political KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #11

"with political ruin in the November 2016 General Election" aspirant Dec 2014 #37

Well, we know that Repubs shut down the government in Oct. 2013, 13 months KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #39

Ah, good ole 9th dimensional chess hueymahl Dec 2014 #46

Except that Democrats will be the nay votes in 2015 and they will be viewed as shutting down JDPriestly Dec 2014 #63

"Nays" were no problem for the repubs for 6 years aspirant Dec 2014 #70

Bad timing on that, though. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #53

Because Obama is not fighting this, he will be blamed for it when things go wrong. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #60

You can't claim duress when you actively push for it. Autumn Dec 2014 #66

Arm and arm with Jamie whipping up votes? aspirant Dec 2014 #71

I think you captured the essence of the debate... kentuck Dec 2014 #12

"Fearless" is the flipside of 'hubris' and 'arrogance'. Republicans since 1980 have KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #18

That is a great breakdown of his choices. Rex Dec 2014 #14

By 'constitutes' I assume you meant to type 'constituents'? The rider KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #17

There is no good answer, they should be finishing and passing on the bills WEEKS in advance Rex Dec 2014 #20

You'll hear no disagreement from me. Please note that my efforts to explain a mindset should KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #33

"should be nationalized" aspirant Dec 2014 #38

Either. Current banking rules allow the FDIC to seize insolvent KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #42

I suspect the smarter investors ... GeorgeGist Dec 2014 #30

"a govermental shut-down right now would not hurt Pepublicans" aspirant Dec 2014 #29

You enjoy national parks, don't you? I shouldn't have to explain why a KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #35

I'm willing to sacrifice national park camping aspirant Dec 2014 #44

I think you're probably right . . . Triana Dec 2014 #45

excellent! you only left out one simple point ellennelle Dec 2014 #54

Considering that Wall Street can now have another planned meltdown Rex Dec 2014 #13

If the Sherman anti-trust act is LAW aspirant Dec 2014 #32

Antitrust enforcement has been deader than Dillinger hifiguy Dec 2014 #51

But it's good for "We The People" aspirant Dec 2014 #64

Because our government is a crime syndicate whatchamacallit Dec 2014 #19

How anyone can pretend the government is not owned by Wall Street Rex Dec 2014 #21

People won't accept the depth of corruption because whatchamacallit Dec 2014 #22

Your third paragraph? treestar Dec 2014 #23

POTUS twisted arms because Citi and the other banks onecaliberal Dec 2014 #24

When has he ever *not* supported the big banks? QC Dec 2014 #25

Why allow pensions to be reduced abelenkpe Dec 2014 #26

Mindset of President: Appease base with support of liberal cultural issues. Teamster Jeff Dec 2014 #27

The man's US senate mentor was Joe Libermann HereSince1628 Dec 2014 #50

The President is bought and paid for. Jacoby365 Dec 2014 #28

Bullshit. randome Dec 2014 #40

Got it, he is smarter than us hueymahl Dec 2014 #48

I think he pretty much is smarter than most of us but leave that aside for a moment. randome Dec 2014 #73

Two things MFrohike Dec 2014 #69

That last shutdown should be trumpeted front and center. randome Dec 2014 #74

It wasn't forgotten MFrohike Dec 2014 #85

I agree. And its profoundly disappointing. But his actions pretty much spell it out for us. RiverLover Dec 2014 #43

Yep. His actions, from the days after his election in 2008 hifiguy Dec 2014 #47

Exactly LiberalLovinLug Dec 2014 #55

Tony Blair's 2014 Christmas Card nationalize the fed Dec 2014 #72

Obama too will be handsomely compensated hifiguy Dec 2014 #78

He's afraid of Republicans. GeorgeGist Dec 2014 #31

It's that huge list of Citigroup people in the executive branch. arcane1 Dec 2014 #34

Democrats who are supporting the bill always say this is compromise. Vinca Dec 2014 #36

It makes you wonder WHAT (if anything) the Democratic party stands for. BillZBubb Dec 2014 #41

All of that disappeared when the DLC sold the party hifiguy Dec 2014 #49

Isn't the line on social issues being slowly smudged aspirant Dec 2014 #77

i meant reproductive rights, same-sex marriage, etc. hifiguy Dec 2014 #79

I agree aspirant Dec 2014 #81

I think a focus on aspirant Dec 2014 #83

We sorely need that debate. BillZBubb Dec 2014 #86

alas, down from the 10% difference of a couple generations back... alterfurz Dec 2014 #87

To help Ink Man Dec 2014 #52

Because they're already prohibited from using their FDIC funds to invest in derivatives ucrdem Dec 2014 #57

None of the anti Obama crowd wants to hear that Andy823 Dec 2014 #62

Bingo. ucrdem Dec 2014 #65

Your quotes on the link aspirant Dec 2014 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Dec 2014 #58

If you think this bill is bad, just wait. MineralMan Dec 2014 #59

This is the answer to your question. SamKnause Dec 2014 #61

Who said he supports that? True Blue Door Dec 2014 #68