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39. When it comes to speaking out on torture and violence DU seems pretty coherently strong to me

Sat Dec 13, 2014, 05:36 PM

Dec 2014

Not much than troll noise against these two subjects and FOR VIOLENCE. People argue about the details and the current presidents response to them but that's noise in the details. DU has always argued on details and probably should. But make no mistake, overwhelmingly we as a community are for ending torture and definitive statements by our leadership on the subject. The same goes for violence against woman and other minorities whether from private citizens or those acting as agents for the state.

I figure any candidate with a strong progressive anti-violence message is going to do well here in 2016. I'm not that worried. If the Dems fail to produce that candidate... then I'd worry because the Rethugs certainly aren't going to produce that candidate.

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Im also curious about exactly who the "real" democrats were. spyker29 Dec 2014 #62

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From yesterday? CrispyQ Dec 2014 #21

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Here's the the interview for anyone who wants to watch octoberlib Dec 2014 #26

Thank you for posting the video. SamKnause Dec 2014 #29

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Who are the progressives elites he refers to? aspirant Dec 2014 #71

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I would add: compromise with the devil. L0oniX Dec 2014 #247

It is the responsibility of the people in a democracy to hold public servants accountable. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #4

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The Moran who voted for the environment bill while Reid, Schumer and others voted against it? merrily Dec 2014 #209

Pre-emptive excuse making. 99Forever Dec 2014 #6

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Obama should just switch parties and get it over with.. helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #7

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Now, now. We tortured some folks, get over it. Quantess Dec 2014 #170

Cha, indeeed. WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #317

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Hyperbole much? n/t Rye Bread Pizza Dec 2014 #34

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sigh NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #320

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Anti-choice = Pro-slavery aspirant Dec 2014 #341

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Interesting article posted last night creeksneakers2 Dec 2014 #218

Politics. It's important to maintain ties with Wall Street, no matter one's personal opinion. randome Dec 2014 #224

Your implication that Democrats don't want to maintain ties with Wall Street is a Strawman. rhett o rick Dec 2014 #237

ok, how about, "shut up about torture and TPP and school privatization" Doctor_J Dec 2014 #176

It's sunnier on our side of the street aspirant Dec 2014 #76

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It would be nice. SixString Dec 2014 #75

When it comes to speaking out on torture and violence DU seems pretty coherently strong to me Johonny Dec 2014 #39

So basically what you are saying, is... ChromeFoundry Dec 2014 #42

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Deflection bahrbearian Dec 2014 #260

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. randome Dec 2014 #151

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Elizabeth Warren is making them uncomfortable. randome Dec 2014 #289

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I don't think the Conservative Dems are that wedded to the oligarchs. randome Dec 2014 #298

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DU rec for pissing off all the right people...nt SidDithers Dec 2014 #288

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*** L0oniX Dec 2014 #312

The three of us JanMichael Dec 2014 #315

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