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moriah

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35. My doctors have gotten onto me several times for not calling 911...

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 07:01 AM

Dec 2014

... and instead getting private transportation to the hospital during a severe attack. When I lived alone once I ended up calling a taxi rather than an ambulance, because it was cheaper and while I knew I wasn't safe behind the wheel, it didn't feel like respiratory failure was imminent. (Hey, they got there in less than 5 minutes.)

One thing I do recommend is for any asthmatic is to get your doctor to write you an Epi-Pen. When albuterol inhalers and nebs don't work, sometimes it's because the medicine isn't able to actually enter the lungs because there's so much trapped air in the lungs they can't exhale. Epi only buys a person time, and is not a first-line treatment in a medical setting with access to better drugs and procedures, but it can keep a person breathing when the albuterol isn't working.

So fucking sad.

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Man Dies During Traffic Stop From Asthma Attack as Cop Refuses to Let them Drive to Hospital [View all] Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 OP

Yeah, but the officer has a daily ticket quota you know bluestateguy Dec 2014 #1

The ambulance company likely has a contract for that area. Trillo Dec 2014 #14

He should have escorted them to the hospital. nt kelliekat44 Dec 2014 #72

They LOVE delaying aid to a seriously injured or dying person 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #2

"I can�t breathe�..I can�t breathe" AGAIN!!!!!!!!????? tblue Dec 2014 #3

Yes I saw that malaise Dec 2014 #33

Breathing is socialist ya know SummerSnow Dec 2014 #101

Another article on the incident with more details... PoliticAverse Dec 2014 #4

Chippewa Falls Police Chief Wendy Stelter Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #5

Whole lot of blaming-the-victim in that article. nt DRoseDARs Dec 2014 #19

Link goes to main page, not story. I can't find a link to the story in that main page. nt tblue37 Dec 2014 #81

Not sure what the problem is, it is still linking directly to the story for me. PoliticAverse Dec 2014 #82

Still no luck. Maybe the problem is that I am on a mobile device. nt tblue37 Dec 2014 #83

I googled to find another report, and in the comments section was this info: tblue37 Dec 2014 #85

Heartwrenching, but girlfriend shouldn't have pulled over. nt greyl Dec 2014 #6

I don't think it would have mattered. SamKnause Dec 2014 #8

They would have been surrounded by cop cars tblue Dec 2014 #15

Well, we know how stopping worked out. greyl Dec 2014 #16

After the stop, it was pretty clear the young, frantic woman shouldn't be behind the wheel. SamKnause Dec 2014 #31

I call bullshit, being a woman and upset is not the same as intoxication or the like. moriah Dec 2014 #34

Who said it was? greyl Dec 2014 #89

Sure, because any cop that wouldn't let a dying man go to the hospital... gcomeau Dec 2014 #21

Pigs love to murder people for doing that RandiFan1290 Dec 2014 #37

Hey, transporting a dying loved one to a hospital is serious business. greyl Dec 2014 #90

Another cop with ZERO common sense. SamKnause Dec 2014 #7

That's really the issue -- Not enough common sense to deviate from "protocol" when warranted. Hoyt Dec 2014 #29

Meanwhile if a cop gets injured... 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #9

You'll get no argument from me. SamKnause Dec 2014 #10

Cops are the most evil human beings alive. MohRokTah Dec 2014 #12

Those kinds of blanket stereotypes are incredibly stupid. -eom gcomeau Dec 2014 #23

+1,000 A friend of mine is a police detective and staunch Dem. pablo_marmol Dec 2014 #26

-1,000 I don't care if your bud in blue gave CPR to a dying kitten... 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #27

Anyone who thinks there exists in real life.... gcomeau Dec 2014 #32

Thank you. This sums up my my take on the hateful post in question. pablo_marmol Dec 2014 #104

That has to be a really brutal job for him. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #43

Since police households experience on average a 40% domestic abuse rate (far above KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #75

There's no such thing as a good cop. MohRokTah Dec 2014 #57

So what are you... gcomeau Dec 2014 #62

I've proved your premise wrong MohRokTah Dec 2014 #64

No, you just imagined that. gcomeau Dec 2014 #73

Link? eom MohRokTah Dec 2014 #74

One among many... gcomeau Dec 2014 #92

There is nothing in that link about cops helping to put away a fellow cop... MohRokTah Dec 2014 #94

African-American police officers do a good job speaking out against this sort of thing JonLP24 Dec 2014 #99

Oh dear lord. You can't possibly believe that. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #42

You're damned straight I beleive that. MohRokTah Dec 2014 #58

Believe it all you want. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #59

I fear cops far more than I fear any criminal. MohRokTah Dec 2014 #61

Cops are all about people being killed by their actions. MohRokTah Dec 2014 #11

Yay, Cops! Iggo Dec 2014 #13

The proper thing to do would have been for the cop to escort the couple to the hospital Triana Dec 2014 #17

The Stupid strikes again. crim son Dec 2014 #18

Common sense isn't.... Blue_Tires Dec 2014 #87

Lawsuit. Epic lawsuit. nt daredtowork Dec 2014 #20

Not an excuse, but... bobGandolf Dec 2014 #22

and/or wanting to act tough (nt) Albertoo Dec 2014 #25

Probably just a rookie 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #28

It certainly sounds like an excuse. SamKnause Dec 2014 #30

I think you're probably right, both that it's not an excuse, but that it was probably mythology Dec 2014 #47

I agree with you! n/t bobGandolf Dec 2014 #109

This example shows main problem with the police is unchecked callousness/brutality. Albertoo Dec 2014 #24

My doctors have gotten onto me several times for not calling 911... moriah Dec 2014 #35

If possible we would drive ourselves. TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #41

albuterol just doesn't work as well all as the removed *over the counter* epedrine mist inhaler- Sunlei Dec 2014 #46

Shh, no Medical Industrial Complex bashing allowed. NT Trillo Dec 2014 #56

over the counter emergency inhaler users even went to congress and BEGGED & they said no. Sunlei Dec 2014 #76

Yes, I agree. It's about money and malice. Trillo Dec 2014 #86

The officer called for ambulance almost immediately. I think he did a very good job. Sunlei Dec 2014 #88

And it is unknown whether epinephrine would have helped anyway. Trillo Dec 2014 #91

Excellent post....prudent advice. FarPoint Dec 2014 #52

umm. too close to home riversedge Dec 2014 #36

Disgusting fucking pigs RandiFan1290 Dec 2014 #38

If he did want to die... Takket Dec 2014 #39

Zero tolerance in the schools starting in the 80's = the death of logic, any mercy kickysnana Dec 2014 #40

Excellent post !!!!!!!!!!!! SamKnause Dec 2014 #51

Sing it... daleanime Dec 2014 #53

can hear the police ask about a inhaler & let the man sit right away. I blame the loss of Sunlei Dec 2014 #44

Primatene mist was never a good drug MattBaggins Dec 2014 #105

Where is the compassion? I can't watch the full video. Glimmer of Hope Dec 2014 #45

I couldn't either. Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #54

I think the police officer did a good job, listen to him in the video. even the woman said.. Sunlei Dec 2014 #48

You could be right... Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #49

It is sad, Asthma kills a lot of people.They removed over the counter emergency inhaler. Sunlei Dec 2014 #50

It's not like the cop knew what we know. Igel Dec 2014 #55

Why? If it isn't an emergency then you get charged with falsifying a report, much more serious than TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #66

Primatene Mist is a casualty of the CFC ban. PoliticAverse Dec 2014 #84

The cop doing anything other than escorting them to the ER is not doing a good job. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2014 #95

The same hospital room emergency treatment is in the ambulance. Sunlei Dec 2014 #97

So let's swap going straight there with waiting for someone to make a two-way trip. Awesome. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2014 #98

best is, if there is even a slim chance a family member could die, call the ambulance to your home. Sunlei Dec 2014 #100

3 miles away, the cop clearly did not use common sense. Rex Dec 2014 #106

The inhalers were removed Sgent Dec 2014 #102

Fuck. The. Police. 99Forever Dec 2014 #60

I'm telling you ALL COPS are on an ego trip and begging B Calm Dec 2014 #63

There are no absolutes when it comes to human beings. nt cyberswede Dec 2014 #65

As a retired truck driver who's been pulled over more than once by cops, I'm absolutely B Calm Dec 2014 #67

Well, if you say so... cyberswede Dec 2014 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author B Calm Dec 2014 #67

What kind of training do these idiots get anyhow? With what we are seeing they expect us to call jwirr Dec 2014 #70

As a severe asthmatic, this story is just one more despicable cop episode riderinthestorm Dec 2014 #71

Cops don't care about you... MrScorpio Dec 2014 #77

That cop just murdered that man! WhiteTara Dec 2014 #78

Yes, he will sleep like a baby... Ino Dec 2014 #93

IT means nothing to him, just like as he stood there and watched the man die. Rex Dec 2014 #107

Inflexibility should not be an American trait Dirty Socialist Dec 2014 #79

another police caused death or murder samsingh Dec 2014 #80

K&R whereisjustice Dec 2014 #96

callous disregard for human life noiretextatique Dec 2014 #103

Must be related to Dick Cheney. Rex Dec 2014 #108