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In reply to the discussion: Do not trust the police. Ever. The police force has become something evil in its purpose... [View all]Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)I can say they don't work at the Broward County Florida Police Department with some authority. http://www.wsvn.com/story/23070302/ticket-talk
There the department was engaging in improper communication with the Judges in traffic court. Now, if the police department was trained to cheat, to lie in court about things as mundane, as irrelevant as simple traffic offenses, what makes you think you can believe them on something larger, something more important.
A curious trait I've discovered about liars, they don't just lie when it is important, they tell little lies all the time.
Perhaps we can look at another situation.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/police-dash-cam-video-exonerates-nj-man-implicates-cops-article-1.1701763
New Jersey gives us a good example of the "Routine Lie". The man was arrested for "resisting arrest" which made it a felony. But the dashcam video shows him not doing anything that the police say he was. All of the officers involved wrote reports that supported each other. All of them told the routine lie. The man was sitting there with his hands up while the police are shouting stop resisting, stop reaching for my gun. That latter phrase was code word to kill the man if you felt like it guys.
Perhaps it's Departments, individual departments that are corrupt, but not all the police is that right? I mean, all those cops were from the same department so that is a good answer. Otherwise, how could you know that the other officers would back up your story?
Chicago, two different departments. Cops who barely knew each other lied on their reports, and on the stand. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-04-15/news/ct-police-testimony-lies-met-20140415_1_police-officers-five-officers-chicago-police
They were caught because one of them forgot to turn off the dashcam video. Durn that video proving that the police were lying.
Cookeville Tennessee. Dashcam shows excessive force, and the officer planting drugs on the accused.
So where are these good cops you mention? Why aren't they going in and reporting that the other cops are doing this stuff? Please tell me you don't believe that this cop only tried to plant evidence once and got caught. Please tell me you aren't that willfully obtuse.
I know of two cops who did report it. Frank Serpico of the NYPD. Christopher Dorner of the LAPD. Serpico was nearly killed by his fellow officers. Dorner was killed by his fellow officers.
So where are the news stories of cops who go out and report that this guy planted evidence. This guy lied on the stand. This guy used excessive force? Not seeing much of that. So how can a few bad apples ruin it for the others? I mean, wouldn't those one in a hundred bad apples be filling their underwear with brown stuff over the thought that the 99 good cops would find out they were corrupt or lying or using excessive force? Yet, when someone does raise questions, and testifies, they are the ones who get killed, or nearly killed in the case of Serpico.
Tell me about those good cops. I've identified both of the ones I've learned about. Tell me about your good cops. The ones who don't lie to protect their fellow officers. The ones who sit on the stand and tell the Jury that the accused was coerced into confessing by the abuse of the other cops. Tell me about the good cop that exposes the thin blue li(n)e. Can you provide links, I'm sure it won't be a long list.