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Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
33. Tell me about these good cops.
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 04:49 PM
Dec 2014

I can say they don't work at the Broward County Florida Police Department with some authority. http://www.wsvn.com/story/23070302/ticket-talk

There the department was engaging in improper communication with the Judges in traffic court. Now, if the police department was trained to cheat, to lie in court about things as mundane, as irrelevant as simple traffic offenses, what makes you think you can believe them on something larger, something more important.

A curious trait I've discovered about liars, they don't just lie when it is important, they tell little lies all the time.

Perhaps we can look at another situation.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/police-dash-cam-video-exonerates-nj-man-implicates-cops-article-1.1701763

New Jersey gives us a good example of the "Routine Lie". The man was arrested for "resisting arrest" which made it a felony. But the dashcam video shows him not doing anything that the police say he was. All of the officers involved wrote reports that supported each other. All of them told the routine lie. The man was sitting there with his hands up while the police are shouting stop resisting, stop reaching for my gun. That latter phrase was code word to kill the man if you felt like it guys.

Perhaps it's Departments, individual departments that are corrupt, but not all the police is that right? I mean, all those cops were from the same department so that is a good answer. Otherwise, how could you know that the other officers would back up your story?

Chicago, two different departments. Cops who barely knew each other lied on their reports, and on the stand. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-04-15/news/ct-police-testimony-lies-met-20140415_1_police-officers-five-officers-chicago-police

They were caught because one of them forgot to turn off the dashcam video. Durn that video proving that the police were lying.

Cookeville Tennessee. Dashcam shows excessive force, and the officer planting drugs on the accused.



So where are these good cops you mention? Why aren't they going in and reporting that the other cops are doing this stuff? Please tell me you don't believe that this cop only tried to plant evidence once and got caught. Please tell me you aren't that willfully obtuse.

I know of two cops who did report it. Frank Serpico of the NYPD. Christopher Dorner of the LAPD. Serpico was nearly killed by his fellow officers. Dorner was killed by his fellow officers.

So where are the news stories of cops who go out and report that this guy planted evidence. This guy lied on the stand. This guy used excessive force? Not seeing much of that. So how can a few bad apples ruin it for the others? I mean, wouldn't those one in a hundred bad apples be filling their underwear with brown stuff over the thought that the 99 good cops would find out they were corrupt or lying or using excessive force? Yet, when someone does raise questions, and testifies, they are the ones who get killed, or nearly killed in the case of Serpico.

Tell me about those good cops. I've identified both of the ones I've learned about. Tell me about your good cops. The ones who don't lie to protect their fellow officers. The ones who sit on the stand and tell the Jury that the accused was coerced into confessing by the abuse of the other cops. Tell me about the good cop that exposes the thin blue li(n)e. Can you provide links, I'm sure it won't be a long list.

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I fear cops more than I fear criminals. MohRokTah Dec 2014 #1
The cops are the criminals now, so it's almost a KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #3
Same here. blackspade Dec 2014 #27
No, it says nothing about the cops, just something about you. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #98
I really don't think so JonLP24 Dec 2014 #103
I'm afraid you're simply wrong; go and look up some numbers. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #127
It could be 2nd JonLP24 Dec 2014 #133
OK, I think I see what you mean now. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #134
Welcome to the third world. Downwinder Dec 2014 #2
The police are the bad guys. 99Forever Dec 2014 #4
Exactly what happens in despotic countries that take rights away from citizens -eom whereisjustice Dec 2014 #5
When the Nazis invaded Europe and installed puppet regimes aint_no_life_nowhere Dec 2014 #6
The police are there drmeow Dec 2014 #7
Paranoid, much? Bette Noir Dec 2014 #8
Blind to reality much? 99Forever Dec 2014 #18
Not at all AnalystInParadise Dec 2014 #21
Is your handle Bette Noir? 99Forever Dec 2014 #22
Nope AnalystInParadise Dec 2014 #23
"sorting people out" 99Forever Dec 2014 #24
Pot meet kettle AnalystInParadise Dec 2014 #25
i see you got the memo about "profiling" police noiretextatique Dec 2014 #48
That "sorting people out"... malokvale77 Dec 2014 #40
Indeed it was. 99Forever Dec 2014 #42
I don't suffer them well myself. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #44
Done on purpose AnalystInParadise Dec 2014 #79
This one is amusing tkmorris Dec 2014 #82
Well thank you AnalystInParadise Dec 2014 #84
Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #89
If I'm not mistaken and it is likely I am JonLP24 Dec 2014 #105
Interesting... malokvale77 Dec 2014 #87
The fun part about bullshit AnalystInParadise Dec 2014 #88
Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #90
That doesn't even make sense AnalystInParadise Dec 2014 #92
What? malokvale77 Dec 2014 #93
You and I will have plenty AnalystInParadise Dec 2014 #94
I'm looking forward to the good times. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #95
Much like "some are good, some are bad..." LanternWaste Dec 2014 #117
Count me as 1. 59 yrs old. Know no one. Closest thing to me was the time DebJ Dec 2014 #97
I hate cops NOLALady Dec 2014 #76
Sure they are AnalystInParadise Dec 2014 #78
"I got it, you hate cops and like criminals. " Ikonoklast Dec 2014 #100
No run along and move the goalposts, it is so much fun when you do that. AnalystInParadise Dec 2014 #128
Which wasn't what that poster said, you put words in their mouth. Ikonoklast Dec 2014 #132
Tell me about these good cops. Savannahmann Dec 2014 #33
So is the only good cop AnalystInParadise Dec 2014 #35
Damn straight marym625 Dec 2014 #37
Chris Dorner- executed by pigs for telling the truth ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #52
The same Chris Dorner that murdered some folks? Throd Dec 2014 #72
Careful AnalystInParadise Dec 2014 #81
Murderin' Christopher Dorner took the COWARD'S WAY OUT and shot himself in the fucking mouth. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2014 #130
If you lie, can you be good? Savannahmann Dec 2014 #65
A cop who does not report corruption and abuse is not morningfog Dec 2014 #66
The blue code of silence is hardly a secret JonLP24 Dec 2014 #108
Back from your timeout? I hope you get another soon. U4ikLefty Dec 2014 #45
Oo, that has to hurt. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #50
I am sure AnalystInParadise Dec 2014 #80
Freddie Mercury would laugh at you tkmorris Dec 2014 #85
Will we not be friends AnalystInParadise Dec 2014 #86
Opps, did we forget which account was in the browser tab? Rex Dec 2014 #101
I called the cops when someone pulled a gun and bomb on me joeglow3 Dec 2014 #29
I have no idea what that has to do with my response. n/t 99Forever Dec 2014 #32
Nothing. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #51
U claimed someone who doesn't share ur views is disassociated with reality joeglow3 Dec 2014 #75
Uh, nope. 99Forever Dec 2014 #106
Where am I wrong joeglow3 Dec 2014 #112
You have me confused with someone. .. 99Forever Dec 2014 #123
You confuse interrogated with calling your buillshit joeglow3 Dec 2014 #124
You know jack. 99Forever Dec 2014 #126
LOL! Ooops! Rex Dec 2014 #102
Paris, 1789 (NT) The Wizard Dec 2014 #9
I agree. This is a lesson that I learned from several experiences, a long time ago. nt Zorra Dec 2014 #10
K&R DeSwiss Dec 2014 #11
It's not really ohheckyeah Dec 2014 #12
where is sanity? hfojvt Dec 2014 #13
We are. To deny it is like denying global warming, the data is all there. whereisjustice Dec 2014 #20
sure the data is there hfojvt Dec 2014 #46
One can make stats mean whatever they want. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #53
No, what they need to understand is that they are part of us, not the One Percent. woo me with science Dec 2014 #14
The police are mercenaries who work on a cash basis... whereisjustice Dec 2014 #15
Well, most police in America are not private mercenary forces yet, woo me with science Dec 2014 #34
Once the "middle class" figures out how poor they really are... malokvale77 Dec 2014 #41
That hug was staged, the kid in it was terrified. Dont post that fascist bullshit proaganda around ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #30
My dad was a cop for 25 years until he retired in the 1990's. He would be horrified at the way catbyte Dec 2014 #16
Yup. ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #31
K&R! marym625 Dec 2014 #17
It is legal for cops to lie to you. vlyons Dec 2014 #19
Even if they appear to be helping you. lpbk2713 Dec 2014 #26
Kick and Rec for TRUTH hifiguy Dec 2014 #28
"phone calls from police begging for money" "at an intersection begging for money"??? muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #36
That's OK m_v... malokvale77 Dec 2014 #47
Those calls for police charities are rip-offs anyway. Blue_In_AK Dec 2014 #49
Why would police need more money anyway? ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #54
Police charities make unsolicited calls and hang around on street corners? muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #56
I found out quite a bit about them. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #60
Seriously…why? CoffeeCat Dec 2014 #68
To all your questions... malokvale77 Dec 2014 #71
And often times they have a few cops on the payroll to legitimize their operation... Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2014 #63
Police will stand at intersections and collect money, similar to fireman's boot - suburban areas whereisjustice Dec 2014 #61
legally, per SCOTUS, they don't have to protect people marym625 Dec 2014 #38
Which is why we increasingly... malokvale77 Dec 2014 #43
The Powers That Be push the pretense that all police are bold, brave, superhuman Retrograde Dec 2014 #39
speak of the devil... whereisjustice Dec 2014 #59
They are. hifiguy Dec 2014 #120
The System works seveneyes Dec 2014 #55
Precisely why I, members of my family and many of our friends Ward Dec 2014 #57
I feel compelled to reply. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #67
Sociopaths, perhaps? QuebecYank Dec 2014 #58
Fred Abdulla. alphafemale Dec 2014 #62
Cop that waved gun at protesters makes $163,000/yr???!!! daredtowork Dec 2014 #64
I would think that's an obvious wrong value. NutmegYankee Dec 2014 #69
Well since I didn't see proof daredtowork Dec 2014 #96
Hyperbole. There were 312 killings by police last year LittleBlue Dec 2014 #70
+1 onenote Dec 2014 #74
You are dead wrong. 1047 killed since Jan 1,2014, 3 per day. Police killings not officially tracked whereisjustice Dec 2014 #109
How many of those 1000 were justified? Okay, you have a choice. You can send your son or daughter LittleBlue Dec 2014 #125
Fuck that ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #73
kick samsingh Dec 2014 #77
(facepalm) Yeah, okay. flvegan Dec 2014 #83
You are so right. I don't trust them, especially the big city police, they are not sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #91
This isn't just nonsense, it's shameful, dangerous nonsense. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #99
...and yet we still beg to be disarmed and depend on the state for protection. ileus Dec 2014 #104
To repeat, take their guns away, people. Otherwise, closeupready Dec 2014 #107
I agree. Take their guns. Iggo Dec 2014 #135
When the UN says you have a problem... whereisjustice Dec 2014 #110
Cops are the mercinaries the Capitalist Class uses to maintain their domination. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #111
Succinctly and accurately put. hifiguy Dec 2014 #121
And yet... pipi_k Dec 2014 #113
That makes a nice sentiment however the problem is institutional whereisjustice Dec 2014 #115
Your OP is hyperbolic nonsense. randome Dec 2014 #114
Nice try, you'll have to apologize for police somewhere else. I'm not taking the bait. -eom whereisjustice Dec 2014 #118
No apologies for police abuse whatsoever. randome Dec 2014 #119
I have been saying this since my earliest posts on DU over ten years ago. Atman Dec 2014 #116
+1 Exactly - it is a moral outrage, literally becoming humanitarian crisis in the US... whereisjustice Dec 2014 #122
Never trust any absolutist statements n/t MrBig Dec 2014 #129
You should have capitalized "never" like this: "NEVER trust any absolutist statements" cherokeeprogressive Dec 2014 #131
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