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JonLP24

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99. African-American police officers do a good job speaking out against this sort of thing

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 06:08 PM

Dec 2014

Before you joined the police force, what experiences did you have with the police in this area?

Experiences that made me feel disrespected, less of a human being. I have been stopped in my car and accused of doing some things I don't think I'd done.

The tone was different. In some senses, it is almost as if the officers I had the interactions with could not care less about who I was, that I was beneath him so he didn't have to extend a level of respect. I felt personally attacked.
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Ferguson is not a group of ignorant uneducated people that are unruly. They are just a bunch of frustrated people who have tried and tried.”

I wanted to join the police to make a difference. I thought I could explain things from a citizen's perspective, and explain things to the community from the law enforcement perspective.

Now do you feel like an outsider among your colleagues in the police force?

I do, very much so. I don't relate with a lot of them, I haven't lived similar lives to them.

It may be a combination of being African American and a woman, but there are certain events I am not included in, or even informed of.

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So when black people in Ferguson say the issue is not just about Michael Brown, but the way they have been treated as a community, do you agree?

I can completely agree with that. It [the killing of Michael Brown] should be a learning experience.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28890068

I don't mean my statement as a generalization as we saw from RAMPART black cops have been known to be dirty, I mean more from an organizational standpoint.

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Man Dies During Traffic Stop From Asthma Attack as Cop Refuses to Let them Drive to Hospital [View all] Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 OP

Yeah, but the officer has a daily ticket quota you know bluestateguy Dec 2014 #1

The ambulance company likely has a contract for that area. Trillo Dec 2014 #14

He should have escorted them to the hospital. nt kelliekat44 Dec 2014 #72

They LOVE delaying aid to a seriously injured or dying person 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #2

"I can�t breathe�..I can�t breathe" AGAIN!!!!!!!!????? tblue Dec 2014 #3

Yes I saw that malaise Dec 2014 #33

Breathing is socialist ya know SummerSnow Dec 2014 #101

Another article on the incident with more details... PoliticAverse Dec 2014 #4

Chippewa Falls Police Chief Wendy Stelter Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #5

Whole lot of blaming-the-victim in that article. nt DRoseDARs Dec 2014 #19

Link goes to main page, not story. I can't find a link to the story in that main page. nt tblue37 Dec 2014 #81

Not sure what the problem is, it is still linking directly to the story for me. PoliticAverse Dec 2014 #82

Still no luck. Maybe the problem is that I am on a mobile device. nt tblue37 Dec 2014 #83

I googled to find another report, and in the comments section was this info: tblue37 Dec 2014 #85

Heartwrenching, but girlfriend shouldn't have pulled over. nt greyl Dec 2014 #6

I don't think it would have mattered. SamKnause Dec 2014 #8

They would have been surrounded by cop cars tblue Dec 2014 #15

Well, we know how stopping worked out. greyl Dec 2014 #16

After the stop, it was pretty clear the young, frantic woman shouldn't be behind the wheel. SamKnause Dec 2014 #31

I call bullshit, being a woman and upset is not the same as intoxication or the like. moriah Dec 2014 #34

Who said it was? greyl Dec 2014 #89

Sure, because any cop that wouldn't let a dying man go to the hospital... gcomeau Dec 2014 #21

Pigs love to murder people for doing that RandiFan1290 Dec 2014 #37

Hey, transporting a dying loved one to a hospital is serious business. greyl Dec 2014 #90

Another cop with ZERO common sense. SamKnause Dec 2014 #7

That's really the issue -- Not enough common sense to deviate from "protocol" when warranted. Hoyt Dec 2014 #29

Meanwhile if a cop gets injured... 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #9

You'll get no argument from me. SamKnause Dec 2014 #10

Cops are the most evil human beings alive. MohRokTah Dec 2014 #12

Those kinds of blanket stereotypes are incredibly stupid. -eom gcomeau Dec 2014 #23

+1,000 A friend of mine is a police detective and staunch Dem. pablo_marmol Dec 2014 #26

-1,000 I don't care if your bud in blue gave CPR to a dying kitten... 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #27

Anyone who thinks there exists in real life.... gcomeau Dec 2014 #32

Thank you. This sums up my my take on the hateful post in question. pablo_marmol Dec 2014 #104

That has to be a really brutal job for him. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #43

Since police households experience on average a 40% domestic abuse rate (far above KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #75

There's no such thing as a good cop. MohRokTah Dec 2014 #57

So what are you... gcomeau Dec 2014 #62

I've proved your premise wrong MohRokTah Dec 2014 #64

No, you just imagined that. gcomeau Dec 2014 #73

Link? eom MohRokTah Dec 2014 #74

One among many... gcomeau Dec 2014 #92

There is nothing in that link about cops helping to put away a fellow cop... MohRokTah Dec 2014 #94

African-American police officers do a good job speaking out against this sort of thing JonLP24 Dec 2014 #99

Oh dear lord. You can't possibly believe that. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #42

You're damned straight I beleive that. MohRokTah Dec 2014 #58

Believe it all you want. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #59

I fear cops far more than I fear any criminal. MohRokTah Dec 2014 #61

Cops are all about people being killed by their actions. MohRokTah Dec 2014 #11

Yay, Cops! Iggo Dec 2014 #13

The proper thing to do would have been for the cop to escort the couple to the hospital Triana Dec 2014 #17

The Stupid strikes again. crim son Dec 2014 #18

Common sense isn't.... Blue_Tires Dec 2014 #87

Lawsuit. Epic lawsuit. nt daredtowork Dec 2014 #20

Not an excuse, but... bobGandolf Dec 2014 #22

and/or wanting to act tough (nt) Albertoo Dec 2014 #25

Probably just a rookie 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #28

It certainly sounds like an excuse. SamKnause Dec 2014 #30

I think you're probably right, both that it's not an excuse, but that it was probably mythology Dec 2014 #47

I agree with you! n/t bobGandolf Dec 2014 #109

This example shows main problem with the police is unchecked callousness/brutality. Albertoo Dec 2014 #24

My doctors have gotten onto me several times for not calling 911... moriah Dec 2014 #35

If possible we would drive ourselves. TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #41

albuterol just doesn't work as well all as the removed *over the counter* epedrine mist inhaler- Sunlei Dec 2014 #46

Shh, no Medical Industrial Complex bashing allowed. NT Trillo Dec 2014 #56

over the counter emergency inhaler users even went to congress and BEGGED & they said no. Sunlei Dec 2014 #76

Yes, I agree. It's about money and malice. Trillo Dec 2014 #86

The officer called for ambulance almost immediately. I think he did a very good job. Sunlei Dec 2014 #88

And it is unknown whether epinephrine would have helped anyway. Trillo Dec 2014 #91

Excellent post....prudent advice. FarPoint Dec 2014 #52

umm. too close to home riversedge Dec 2014 #36

Disgusting fucking pigs RandiFan1290 Dec 2014 #38

If he did want to die... Takket Dec 2014 #39

Zero tolerance in the schools starting in the 80's = the death of logic, any mercy kickysnana Dec 2014 #40

Excellent post !!!!!!!!!!!! SamKnause Dec 2014 #51

Sing it... daleanime Dec 2014 #53

can hear the police ask about a inhaler & let the man sit right away. I blame the loss of Sunlei Dec 2014 #44

Primatene mist was never a good drug MattBaggins Dec 2014 #105

Where is the compassion? I can't watch the full video. Glimmer of Hope Dec 2014 #45

I couldn't either. Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #54

I think the police officer did a good job, listen to him in the video. even the woman said.. Sunlei Dec 2014 #48

You could be right... Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #49

It is sad, Asthma kills a lot of people.They removed over the counter emergency inhaler. Sunlei Dec 2014 #50

It's not like the cop knew what we know. Igel Dec 2014 #55

Why? If it isn't an emergency then you get charged with falsifying a report, much more serious than TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #66

Primatene Mist is a casualty of the CFC ban. PoliticAverse Dec 2014 #84

The cop doing anything other than escorting them to the ER is not doing a good job. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2014 #95

The same hospital room emergency treatment is in the ambulance. Sunlei Dec 2014 #97

So let's swap going straight there with waiting for someone to make a two-way trip. Awesome. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2014 #98

best is, if there is even a slim chance a family member could die, call the ambulance to your home. Sunlei Dec 2014 #100

3 miles away, the cop clearly did not use common sense. Rex Dec 2014 #106

The inhalers were removed Sgent Dec 2014 #102

Fuck. The. Police. 99Forever Dec 2014 #60

I'm telling you ALL COPS are on an ego trip and begging B Calm Dec 2014 #63

There are no absolutes when it comes to human beings. nt cyberswede Dec 2014 #65

As a retired truck driver who's been pulled over more than once by cops, I'm absolutely B Calm Dec 2014 #67

Well, if you say so... cyberswede Dec 2014 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author B Calm Dec 2014 #67

What kind of training do these idiots get anyhow? With what we are seeing they expect us to call jwirr Dec 2014 #70

As a severe asthmatic, this story is just one more despicable cop episode riderinthestorm Dec 2014 #71

Cops don't care about you... MrScorpio Dec 2014 #77

That cop just murdered that man! WhiteTara Dec 2014 #78

Yes, he will sleep like a baby... Ino Dec 2014 #93

IT means nothing to him, just like as he stood there and watched the man die. Rex Dec 2014 #107

Inflexibility should not be an American trait Dirty Socialist Dec 2014 #79

another police caused death or murder samsingh Dec 2014 #80

K&R whereisjustice Dec 2014 #96

callous disregard for human life noiretextatique Dec 2014 #103

Must be related to Dick Cheney. Rex Dec 2014 #108