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76. I was surprised you guys missed that keyword before now.

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 06:32 PM

Dec 2014

Usually there's an immediate response from Administration Defense Message Control to the use of that word in connection to the administration. Was there a glitch this time, that it took you so long?

Monied corruption, of course, driving the corporate wars-for-profit and the propaganda to defend them. Kerry is now a tool of this corrupt administration, which is actively continuing the policies of, defending, and trying to cover up the crimes of the previous administration, while extending and expanding their agenda of perpetual war for profit. And making sure no one is ever held accountable for the use of TORTURE to extract false confessions to dupe Americans into supporting this outrageous perpetual war policy is a big part of the corruption.

Time to repost this by William Pitt: Refresher Course on PNAC
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025518146

Refresher Course in PNAC: This was planned a long time ago.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025518146

Only two countries remain on the PNAC agenda: Syria and Iran ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023540654

Report shows torture program deliberately used to extract false confessions to propagandize Americans to support War
Is the Media Focusing on the Wrong Senate Torture Report?http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025959095

Obama Administration Presses on Two Fronts to Prevent Disclosure of the Panetta Report & Durham Memo
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025949936

Obama did not ban torture and now makes sure there is no real accountability.
"The LEFT needs to realize that TORTURE is OVER"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025952831

What Is Obama Doing At Bagram? (Part One): Torture Under the Obama Administration
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x540433

Target of Obama-era rendition alleges torture
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6277906
(original discussion missing)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/11/target-of-obama-era-rendi_n_256499.html

Pres. Obama Never Rescinded Bush Memo On Torture- Still Part of Military Interrogation Doctrine
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025347198

Obama Justice Department indicts ex-CIA agent for exposing torture
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002528908

Obama has stated flat out the USA does not Torture, BUT does it ...
(original discussion missing)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8817920

Obama's Torture Problem (Cover-up of torture at Guantanamo and CIA black sites)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9640662
(original discussion missing)
http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2010/nov/18/obamas-torture-problem/

Fellow Nobel Peace Laureates to Obama: Stain of US Torture Your Job to Repair
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025722026

Obama's Torture Bind (Torture, CIA "black sites&quot

(original discussion missing)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5454518

The ACLU on Obama and Core Liberties
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2069714
(original discussion missing)
http://www.salon.com/2011/09/07/liberties_3/

Note how many of these discussions are now missing from DU. I had to go looking for many of the original sources online. This is why it's important to title articles with the actual titles of the sources...

Neocons and neolibs sure have a lot in common. So much in common that they almost seem like the very same people:

When the DLC connections to the Koch Bros. became well known, they just rebranded the infiltration
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4165556

When you hear "Third Way", think INVESTMENT BANKERS
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024127432

GOP Donors and K Street Fuel Third Way’s Advice for the Democratic Party
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101680116

The Rightwing Koch Brothers fund the DLC
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x498414

Same companies behind the GOP are behind the DLC
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1481121

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Here We Go Again! "Secretary of State John Kerry Pushes for Endless War Authorization" [View all] KoKo Dec 2014 OP

What strategic move would you take to halt ISIS? Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #1

It was strategic moves that created ISIS. We need to be focusing more on liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #4

Kerry's doing that - people don't want to understand how he is doing it. blm Dec 2014 #7

Nothing we are doing right now is decreasing the number of terrorists. liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #11

That was before Kerry's negotiations to bring Muslim nations blm Dec 2014 #20

"Rooting for"? No. Realistic about. Scuba Dec 2014 #24

Reality - Kerry's goal has always been the right one: blm Dec 2014 #28

Yeah, you just keep believing that fantasy. Scuba Dec 2014 #29

Sorry, Scub - I deal only with reality. You want to join the smears on Kerry blm Dec 2014 #32

I'm still waiting for that link where Kerry advocates humanitarian aid to prevent terror. Scuba Dec 2014 #34

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2014-09/09/c_126964123.htm blm Dec 2014 #37

So you have no link where Kerry advocates humanitarian aid to end terrorism. Got it. Scuba Dec 2014 #39

Because that has always been his mindset, Scub�whether you want blm Dec 2014 #42

What part of "We do not think an AUMF should include a geographic limitation" do you interpret as .. Scuba Dec 2014 #44

Because it isn't ABOUT geography. It's a worldview and you know it. blm Dec 2014 #48

I don't see Kerry advocating use of any tools except the hammer. That's disappointing. Scuba Dec 2014 #53

See what you want. I've seen and heard it in plenty of his blm Dec 2014 #55

Yet you can't provide a single link. Scuba Dec 2014 #56

A single link to Kerry's views on roots of terrorism and humanitarian blm Dec 2014 #58

I've never previously heard of Kerry's book, let alone read it. Can you cite passages .... Scuba Dec 2014 #59

I'm horrified and sorry that so many rely on corporate media for their news about blm Dec 2014 #60

My apologies for being so ignorant as to not know about a passing reference Kerry made to ... Scuba Dec 2014 #62

You've paid as much attention to Kerry's work as corporate media wanted you. blm Dec 2014 #74

So your position is that issues like food insecurity are the centerpiece of Kerry's diplomacy? Scuba Dec 2014 #77

LOL - I swing by here when I can spare a minute blm Dec 2014 #80

You're hilarious. Kerry abandoned any ideals he had and now touts more failed militarism ... Scuba Dec 2014 #81

I can't MAKE you read, Scuba. blm Dec 2014 #83

You've got nothing. Scuba Dec 2014 #84

Only to someone who refuses to READ. blm Dec 2014 #85

Yet you only have one four-year-old link. Scuba Dec 2014 #86

Nope. What I have is little time to guide you along blm Dec 2014 #87

Oh it is NOT a fantasy. Just facts. mylye2222 Dec 2014 #67

Read the thread. Scuba Dec 2014 #71

Just ignore the beheadings on the other side of the room.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #8

Do you seriously think ficusing on decreasing military actions abroad is going to Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #15

Wow. More Democrats who favor war. Somehow not surprising. liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #16

Okay, I will give you a shot at an intelligent strategic mive here, you tell me Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #18

Instead of bombs, send them food, medicine, iPads and Wii's. Scuba Dec 2014 #25

iPads and Wiis? LordGlenconner Dec 2014 #36

To ISIS, are you serious? They have lots of modern items, they are still cutting off heads Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #40

They don't recruit well cared for citizens with ample leisure activities. Scuba Dec 2014 #43

who do you think they are recruiting? so you think they are going to sit down all day and play Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #46

Naviety LordGlenconner Dec 2014 #47

Why not hookers and blow? I mean, maybe that will keep them from kidnapping, raping, and killing msanthrope Dec 2014 #61

they already have food, ipads and other shit, you do realize most of the terrorists live well JI7 Dec 2014 #68

Surprising? No. Disgusting? Yes. The willful disregard for the simple fact that our military ... Scuba Dec 2014 #65

Well, I suggest Kerry get his helmet out of the closet and take to the front lines Scootaloo Dec 2014 #2

I dont think we should be fighting this war. But given that we are gonna fight it, Vattel Dec 2014 #3

So instead of giving them approval, let's tell them to end the war and vote for liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #5

Nope. This is progressive use of military instead of targeting entire nations. blm Dec 2014 #10

You can justify it all you want. It is part of the endless war in the Middle East that we have liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #12

Hard to argue with someone who hasn't a clue what's driving this tact. blm Dec 2014 #13

Oh, give me a break. If you think it is helping you are fooling yourself. liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #14

If you were truly a THOUGHTFUL anti-war person, you'd understand exactly blm Dec 2014 #19

How is it narrowing when there's no geographical boundaries? I guess Kerry thinks we ... Scuba Dec 2014 #26

If that is what you think Kerry's goal is, then please don't complain when blm Dec 2014 #30

Please link to where Kerry advocates for humanitarian aid as a means of preventing terror. Scuba Dec 2014 #31

Good thing OTHER nation's news organizations respect Kerry: blm Dec 2014 #35

Yeah LOL People trying to portray our military as being a humanitarian aid org is a bad joke. L0oniX Dec 2014 #82

I agree, Cheers! Vattel Dec 2014 #51

Altered to target ISIL/extremists specifically. They aren't expanding war, just narrowing the TARGET blm Dec 2014 #6

thank you.....and THANK GOD cooler heads will prevail VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #9

YES Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #17

do you have a link G_j Dec 2014 #21

I know Kerry's work and know that is exactly what he's been working on blm Dec 2014 #22

Do you have a link to the where the AUMF has been altered to target ISIL specifically? Autumn Dec 2014 #41

LOL - Sorry I have the ability to connect ALL the historical dots. blm Dec 2014 #45

Then your post is indeed a fantasy and the wording HAS NOT been changed to target ISIL Autumn Dec 2014 #49

I was referring to the changes being sought as per the OP article. blm Dec 2014 #54

If you want to make sure ISIL never goes away, hughee99 Dec 2014 #23

They can shrink it to a regional law enforcement effort. blm Dec 2014 #27

Common Dreams...of course brooklynite Dec 2014 #33

Is common Dreams a RW site or just one you don't like? Autumn Dec 2014 #38

Common dreams is a left-wing sites that takes an extreme view on issues with a lot of hyperbole brooklynite Dec 2014 #50

Okay. As a Democrat I like left wing. Autumn Dec 2014 #57

And as a centrist, I have no objection to it... brooklynite Dec 2014 #63

There's Nothing in the Middle of the Road but Yellow Stripes and Dead Armadillos Autumn Dec 2014 #66

No, because I'm not a philosophical centrist...I'm a POLICY centrist brooklynite Dec 2014 #70

got the shirt Baclava Dec 2014 #52

Fuck John Kerry Aerows Dec 2014 #64

Say better F... HRC and her faar more hawkish inclinements!!!! mylye2222 Dec 2014 #69

Kick for corruption woo me with science Dec 2014 #72

What corruption would that be? Any actual Details? blm Dec 2014 #75

I was surprised you guys missed that keyword before now. woo me with science Dec 2014 #76

Kerry is NOT a tool and he's not corruptible. blm Dec 2014 #78

He's Superman! L0oniX Dec 2014 #79

Well, you are welcome to name one other lawmaker who has blm Dec 2014 #88

"not corruptible" was your words not mine so yea ...Superman. L0oniX Dec 2014 #89

LOL - iow, you can't name one. blm Dec 2014 #90

I have no problem with you thinking rich people like Kerry are not corruptible. That's your thing. L0oniX Dec 2014 #91

Doesn't bother me that you don't know your history - blm Dec 2014 #92

Doesn't bother me that you think rich people are uncorruptible. L0oniX Dec 2014 #95

Bwah! woo me with science Dec 2014 #93

kick woo me with science Dec 2014 #73

Now I always have to wonder fadedrose Dec 2014 #94