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kpete

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Thu Dec 22, 2011, 05:35 PM Dec 2011

Germany Explodes Republican Myth [View all]

How Germany Builds Twice as Many Cars as the U.S. While Paying Its Workers Twice as Much

In 2010, Germany produced more than 5.5 million automobiles; the U.S produced 2.7 million. At the same time, the average auto worker in Germany made $67.14 per hour in salary in benefits; the average one in the U.S. made $33.77 per hour. Yet Germany’s big three car companies—BMW, Daimler (Mercedes-Benz), and Volkswagen—are very profitable.

How can that be? The question is explored in a new article from Remapping Debate, a public policy e-journal. Its author, Kevin C. Brown, writes that “the salient difference is that, in Germany, the automakers operate within an environment that precludes a race to the bottom; in the U.S., they operate within an environment that encourages such a race.”

There are “two overlapping sets of institutions” in Germany that guarantee high wages and good working conditions for autoworkers. The first is IG Metall, the country’s equivalent of the United Automobile Workers. Virtually all Germany’s car workers are members, and though they have the right to strike, they “hardly use it, because there is an elaborate system of conflict resolution that regularly is used to come to some sort of compromise that is acceptable to all parties,” according to Horst Mund, an IG Metall executive. The second institution is the German constitution, which allows for “works councils” in every factory, where management and employees work together on matters like shop floor conditions and work life. Mund says this guarantees cooperation, “where you don’t always wear your management pin or your union pin.”

Mund points out that this goes

against all mainstream wisdom of the neo-liberals. We have strong unions, we have strong social security systems, we have high wages. So, if I believed what the neo-liberals are arguing, we would have to be bankrupt, but apparently this is not the case. Despite high wages . . . despite our possibility to influence companies, the economy is working well in Germany.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/2011/12/21/germany-builds-twice-as-many-cars-as-the-u-s-while-paying-its-auto-workers-twice-as-much/
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/22/1047995/-Germany-Explodes-Republican-Myth?via=siderec

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Very good read. Thanks for posting. nt stillwaiting Dec 2011 #1
+1 and have shared elsewhere. freshwest Dec 2011 #33
How much of these automakers' financial profitability comes from bringing jobs to the US The Genealogist Dec 2011 #2
Am I misunderstanding this factoid? LiberalAndProud Dec 2011 #19
I was talking about their profits The Genealogist Dec 2011 #37
So you suspect that German workers are doing well on the backs of U.S. autoworkers. LiberalAndProud Dec 2011 #39
Not just the US DissedByBush Dec 2011 #42
k&r for labor and for the truth. n/t Laelth Dec 2011 #3
+ underpants Dec 2011 #4
Except that in 2010 US produced nearly 7.8 million automobiles, not 2.7 million Fool Count Dec 2011 #5
You are correct dems_rightnow Dec 2011 #7
your OCIA source says 2.7 million cars, same as the OP. provis99 Dec 2011 #9
Perhaps it's cars vs commercial vehicles. progressoid Dec 2011 #10
that wikipedia article doesn't cite any sources. provis99 Dec 2011 #8
It wasn't wrong, but misread. n/t Fearless Dec 2011 #11
"cars" not "automobiles"....? kristopher Dec 2011 #24
This nationmaster site is a big pile of crap. Fool Count Dec 2011 #27
Figures from the GERMAN Auto Manufacturers Association econoclast Dec 2011 #40
Ouch--that is an enormous discrepancy. nt MADem Dec 2011 #44
In the US top management likes a hierarchy Turbineguy Dec 2011 #6
Damn what I would do for $67/hour Fearless Dec 2011 #12
The $67/hr usrname Dec 2011 #43
Cost of living over there is no pic-a-nic, even with the health coverage. MADem Dec 2011 #45
Pizza Hut smells like a tourist trap... Fearless Dec 2011 #47
No more so than McDonald's, Kentucky Fried Chicken or MADem Dec 2011 #48
Well... Fearless Dec 2011 #49
I can understand. MADem Dec 2011 #50
K&R Love this!!!! stevenleser Dec 2011 #13
They have an actual industrial policy. A better model. I nail rabid cons I know with this. Populist_Prole Dec 2011 #14
As are the socialist countries of Scandinavia Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2011 #15
We had a choice int he past 20 years - compete w/ Europe or China/India elehhhhna Dec 2011 #29
Recommended bigtime! Bozita Dec 2011 #16
K. & R. Rochester Dec 2011 #17
govt health coverage. pansypoo53219 Dec 2011 #18
they also have apprenticeships-that PAY MONEY even, we should be more like Germany & Canada StarsInHerHair Dec 2011 #20
We have apprenticeships that pay you while you learn - but hard work isn't held in high regard Edweird Dec 2011 #23
I was just reading a post on a technical forum about this.. Fumesucker Dec 2011 #21
This, perhaps, deserves it's own post. AllyCat Dec 2011 #31
K&R Lunabelle Dec 2011 #22
"Germany ... an economic model with more bottom-up worker control than that of any other country..." pampango Dec 2011 #25
By coincidence, I was just reading Mitt Romney's "thoughts" on this subject Jim Lane Dec 2011 #26
k&r Starry Messenger Dec 2011 #28
This is fascinating. Bookmarked for reference later when talking to wing nuts AllyCat Dec 2011 #30
K & R freshwest Dec 2011 #32
Approximately 5% unemployment rate even in the downturn hootinholler Dec 2011 #34
K&R please read abelenkpe Dec 2011 #35
But, we only pay 20-30% on less and they pay 50% in taxes on it all. Festivito Dec 2011 #36
K&R (n/t) a2liberal Dec 2011 #38
They can afford to pay people better in Germany because their CEO's and other 1% don't take as much. limpyhobbler Dec 2011 #41
I did an in-depth study of free speech rights and of employee's rights of representation JDPriestly Dec 2011 #46
du rec. nt xchrom Dec 2011 #51
K&R krispos42 Dec 2011 #52
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