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NuclearDem

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433. Missed the point entirely.

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 12:47 PM

Dec 2014

My issue is not with people discussing and reporting on Cheney's crimes. They need to be discussed. My issue is over the use of certain terminology to discuss them; the discussion over whether or not we deem it acceptable to use misogynistic or homophobic terms in these discussions is one we need to have.

The subsequent issue that comes up--which was the whole point of my discussion with Sabrina, both now and several months ago--is when people rush in to tell people with legitimate grievances over those words that their concerns are irrelevant or don't matter. It shows complete and utter contempt for the minorities who bring issues important to them to light.

Additionally, my point about my own psychological wounds from Cheney's wars has absolutely nothing to do with other people who have suffered. It was a response to the stupid whataboutism intended to imply I don't care about Cheney's crimes; the reason I don't discuss them as others do is because it's extremely and unnecessarily painful for me to do so.

And again, as I said earlier, there were over half a dozen OPs on Cheney last night on the first two pages of GD, and the only sabrina was posting in was this one, and almost exclusively to tell people their concerns don't matter.

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Dick Cheney is a pussy. [View all] JaneQPublic Dec 2014 OP

We call them "Chickenshit Chickenhawks" NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #1

Pussy's are useful. He's a heartless Dick. JaneyVee Dec 2014 #2

Oh, come on clydefrand Dec 2014 #3

You know, I never really got that comparison. moriah Dec 2014 #4

Hooray, misogynistic terminology! NuclearDem Dec 2014 #5

Did you complain to "the Daily Show"? JaneQPublic Dec 2014 #16

Ah, the wonderful "whataboutism" NuclearDem Dec 2014 #20

Did this even go to a jury yuiyoshida Dec 2014 #255

Yes, it stood. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #256

I find it offensive... yuiyoshida Dec 2014 #258

That's you prerogative. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #259

NO everyone else can be just as yuiyoshida Dec 2014 #260

Nobody is asking you to fall in line... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #261

This conversation is ended yuiyoshida Dec 2014 #262

Fair enough. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #263

Don't even bother waving... yuiyoshida Dec 2014 #264

Is there another smilie you would prefer I used? NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #265

You're just getting a lot of passive aggressive behavior aimed at you. boston bean Dec 2014 #268

Doesn't seem to be much passive left in there these days. JTFrog Dec 2014 #269

What is so darned "emboldened" about disagreeing that a commonly used word... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #272

"a commonly used word" JTFrog Dec 2014 #273

"Not in my circles" NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #276

It's obvious you don't understand. JTFrog Dec 2014 #281

I don't deny that words matter... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #284

"life on the line" pintobean Dec 2014 #286

I wondered that too... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #295

Do you really care? JTFrog Dec 2014 #299

You are right --these discussions are not in good faith. R B Garr Dec 2014 #309

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #523

If someone offered a rational and sincere reason to its consistent use, it's quite possible LanternWaste Dec 2014 #443

I have a rational and sincere justification. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #532

pusillanimous............nothing to do with a vagina Demonaut Dec 2014 #544

ooh thank you.. yuiyoshida Dec 2014 #573

pusillanimous........nothing to do with the OP. JTFrog Dec 2014 #592

You are being far too logical. JaneQPublic Dec 2014 #8

So would calling him a "f**" NuclearDem Dec 2014 #13

Doesn't mean YOU do. Dr. Strange Dec 2014 #19

With all due respect, a lot of people separate meanings very easily and almost unconsciously. BlueJazz Dec 2014 #52

No, you call him a putz. That is never a compliment... 1monster Dec 2014 #68

Yeah, you can laugh "schmuck" off Warpy Dec 2014 #136

OK CatWoman Dec 2014 #21

True Glassunion Dec 2014 #60

Betty White said virtually the same thing but added: "Those things (vaginas) can take a pounding!" Hekate Dec 2014 #91

I've been known to call him a petunia Warpy Dec 2014 #135

Exactly. n/t Jamastiene Dec 2014 #227

Not to mention the abuse a woman's genitals have to take before giving birth too. Jamastiene Dec 2014 #226

He's no kitty cat. JTFrog Dec 2014 #6

I doubt it is even alerted. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #10

I wasn't the first alert. JTFrog Dec 2014 #12

oh well, par for the course. I see DU is still about par level. Nice try, though. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #18

Happy holidays to you too TA. JTFrog Dec 2014 #22

Here's the results ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #43

Woo hoo! Only one of the LEAVERs was brave enough to comment. Gormy Cuss Dec 2014 #134

Generally when I vote to leave without comment... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #137

So it follows that you think this alert wasn't worthy of comments, right? Gormy Cuss Dec 2014 #138

I wasn't on the jury if that's what you're asking. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #140

No, that wasn't my question. I would have written "Were you a juror?" if I was asking that. Gormy Cuss Dec 2014 #142

Okay, cool. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #144

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #521

Welcome to the new DU yuiyoshida Dec 2014 #257

That's something Jamaal510 Dec 2014 #381

I read that as pintobean Dec 2014 #14

You are wrong as usual. JTFrog Dec 2014 #17

Lol. Is that so? pintobean Dec 2014 #23

Guaranteed. n/t JTFrog Dec 2014 #24

You know she knows just exactly what the facts is pintobean Dec 2014 #40

Does she make her living as a detective down in Texas? Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #42

Those lines ring a bell pintobean Dec 2014 #44

Here's a hint: NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #85

What is "Take The Money And Run" by Steve Miller Band, Alex? Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #164

That's it. pintobean Dec 2014 #312

Why? NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #86

I don't want to kick this anymore ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #55

I think that is the kindest/wisest thing to do since the OP can no longer participate = Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #58

Straight to the trash, chervilant Dec 2014 #213

Every kind of slur is allowed on du cwydro Dec 2014 #125

Apparently so MissDeeds Dec 2014 #204

Oh it's okay. brush Dec 2014 #11

Welcome to ignore. n/t JTFrog Dec 2014 #15

It's quite all right brush Dec 2014 #33

Are you implying that I am a prude? JTFrog Dec 2014 #35

Wait a minute, I thought I was on ignore. nt brush Dec 2014 #36

Don't be thick. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #38

Context is everything. Give people some credit. immoderate Dec 2014 #46

Thank you, immoderate. brush Dec 2014 #50

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #524

Comparing a slang for my body part to Cheney isn't vulgar? ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #45

But you have no objection to comparing a slang for MY body part to Cheney? TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #414

Why do I keep hearing the chirping of crickets? NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #550

Because you are so consistently wrong? TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #557

I was referring to the question you asked the other poster. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #560

Oh. Now I am thoroughly confused... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #565

No problem. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #568

... pintobean Dec 2014 #7

lol.. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #156

Guess how many refills. pintobean Dec 2014 #158

A lot, probably darkangel218 Dec 2014 #162

Change that to "wimp" or "wuss" and you'll get a boatload of recs. CJCRANE Dec 2014 #9

here, here CatWoman Dec 2014 #25

Hear, hear BB_Smoke Dec 2014 #462

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #29

Actually, you're a perfect example of why liberals are marginalized NuclearDem Dec 2014 #32

That's right. Dems lost the last election because of sexist language. JaneQPublic Dec 2014 #34

Actually, they lost because of poor turnout. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #37

The voice of a strong woman silenced. pintobean Dec 2014 #56

You are concerned about strong women being silenced? R B Garr Dec 2014 #76

Yes. pintobean Dec 2014 #79

Yes. Yes, indeed. R B Garr Dec 2014 #82

Many believe that the only strong women are the ones who put up with boston bean Dec 2014 #161

Good point. I see what you mean. n/t R B Garr Dec 2014 #218

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #526

Yeah, what's this country coming to when we can't denigrate women anymore? Sheldon Cooper Dec 2014 #59

The responses here are because you wrote a blatantly sexist op. NCTraveler Dec 2014 #420

How are wimp or wuss any less sexist? Alittleliberal Dec 2014 #103

I don't endorse using any terminology that reinforces gender roles. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #106

Disagree. Wimp and wuss are synonyms with weak and cowardly. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #430

+1 nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #66

I expect he'll be on Mt Rusmore pretty soon world wide wally Dec 2014 #26

While I agree wholheartedly with your basic point, The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2014 #27

+ a brazilion undeterred Dec 2014 #39

+1 nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #74

His parents were smart enought to name him "Dick" rickford66 Dec 2014 #28

I've always considered him olddots Dec 2014 #30

He is an asshole still_one Dec 2014 #31

I think you posted this OP using misogynistic terminology in order to troll DU. Unrec. demmiblue Dec 2014 #41

whereas I'm not a "troll" CatWoman Dec 2014 #47

Neither am I and I do ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #49

"Perhaps the other trolls in this thread will have your back." R B Garr Dec 2014 #75

Sorry, couldn't get past your insensitive title to read the rest. nt benz380 Dec 2014 #48

how are cats offensive? MisterP Dec 2014 #73

That's an insult to cats! benz380 Dec 2014 #87

True that.. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #89

lol!!! nt darkangel218 Dec 2014 #88

I prefer the word "coward" - it just seems to describe him better DrDan Dec 2014 #51

Quite Orwellian sarisataka Dec 2014 #53

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #54

This will be the luck of the draw pintobean Dec 2014 #57

Op stands... Yet this get a hide. Glassunion Dec 2014 #163

+1 nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #168

Makes no sense nt DawgHouse Dec 2014 #293

Is it okay to call him a wuss? Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #61

dick cheney is an Evil Coward. 99Forever Dec 2014 #62

Pussy is misogynistic, and yes, I'm a man in real life steve2470 Dec 2014 #63

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #527

+10000000000 marble falls Dec 2014 #597

Don't compare my vagina to Dick Cheney! vlyons Dec 2014 #64

The word "pussy" also refers to cats darkangel218 Dec 2014 #90

What an odd response. JTFrog Dec 2014 #113

Im only stating the facts. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #115

interesting how somebody who so often seeks attention for being born out of the US and ESL Kali Dec 2014 #223

Actually she is correct. The words 'pussy cat' was often used and probably sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #232

And in England a "fag" is a cigarette. JTFrog Dec 2014 #270

Being unaware or intolerant of other people's cultures is probably sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #371

Apparently, not around here... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #373

If a word is more important to someone than the murder and torture of untold sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #384

FAIL, FAIL, and FAIL again. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #387

Cheney is a War Criminal. When I see his name I think of the dead children sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #391

I just counted over half a dozen OPs on Cheney on the first two pages in GD. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #395

This thread is about Cheney and his war crimes. Why are you trying to distract sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #401

Not following you around here at all. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #403

Sabrina has been reporting on Cheney's war crimes for polly7 Dec 2014 #412

I'll let you reread my post. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #416

Awww, how kind of you. Have you been trying to inform people polly7 Dec 2014 #421

You must have missed this part: NuclearDem Dec 2014 #422

Many of us have relatives lost in wars or who have come home with polly7 Dec 2014 #429

Missed the point entirely. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #433

Nah, I got your point. polly7 Dec 2014 #435

No, you clearly didn't. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #437

She's definitely not the one with the obsession. Look in a mirror. nt. polly7 Dec 2014 #438

Speaking of obsession... NuclearDem Dec 2014 #439

I take it you checked out that mirror ...... good job! nt. polly7 Dec 2014 #444

Thank you polly, I always find it creepy when someone digs back into sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #440

YEP. polly7 Dec 2014 #445

Yet you are bringing up an old thread with --no doubt-- R B Garr Dec 2014 #446

What old thread am I bringing up??? polly7 Dec 2014 #448

Thanks polly. The word that should get everyone's attention sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #452

I'll take polly's history of compassion and support for the REAL victims sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #451

It's hard to take you seriously with so many false equivalencies. R B Garr Dec 2014 #453

I always consider the source in this kinds of discussions. You must have noticed sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #454

LMAO! What "ire"? More embellishing for your audience.... R B Garr Dec 2014 #456

Wrong, Cheney is extremely fearful. Are you seriously saying he's courageous? Coward sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #510

ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.................. nt. polly7 Dec 2014 #457

Did you find what you said in post 445, but then forgot? R B Garr Dec 2014 #458

You should write fiction novels. polly7 Dec 2014 #459

You just wrote post 445 today. I responded to it and then quoted you from it. R B Garr Dec 2014 #460

I wrote what I wrote, I always mean every word I write. polly7 Dec 2014 #461

I'm sure you do mean every word you write. R B Garr Dec 2014 #472

Deep. polly7 Dec 2014 #473

Why are you getting all emotional now? R B Garr Dec 2014 #476

I'm not emotional at all. Just a bit disgusted. I really don't enjoy polly7 Dec 2014 #478

Almost everything I've seen from you is emotional. R B Garr Dec 2014 #482

Really??? Are you sure you're reading the right posts when you make such polly7 Dec 2014 #483

You must mean when you're NOT emotional R B Garr Dec 2014 #485

Now you're just getting a bit creepy. nt. polly7 Dec 2014 #491

Another Rovian fail. R B Garr Dec 2014 #494

lmfao. Keep trying ........... nt. polly7 Dec 2014 #498

Tsk, look at you laughing in a torture thread. R B Garr Dec 2014 #500

Well, you have to admit it's funny to see someone claim that saying something 'once' polly7 Dec 2014 #502

Your reponses are all the same. In fact, I'm waiting for R B Garr Dec 2014 #507

Ick. nt. polly7 Dec 2014 #509

Deep. R B Garr Dec 2014 #518

Keeping it kicked, I see. pintobean Dec 2014 #463

And you didn't get anyone locked out R B Garr Dec 2014 #466

Hey now .......... that's your agenda. polly7 Dec 2014 #469

Nice Rovian tactic there. "many of us" R B Garr Dec 2014 #471

Oh, I'm quite sure you can. polly7 Dec 2014 #475

No need to get so emotional about this. R B Garr Dec 2014 #477

Derp. polly7 Dec 2014 #479

Deep. R B Garr Dec 2014 #484

My 'fav'. Once. Lmao. polly7 Dec 2014 #489

Please calm down. No need to overthink this. R B Garr Dec 2014 #493

Not that much thinking needed to reply to your .......... polly7 Dec 2014 #497

oh, please. I saw your GBCW meanderings in your profile R B Garr Dec 2014 #505

About 'Americans'???? polly7 Dec 2014 #508

You also said in your profile you weren't coming back R B Garr Dec 2014 #517

Omgosh the lies just fly from you. polly7 Dec 2014 #528

According to the latest polls, Americans ARE complicit in torture. That is a very sad fact! sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #614

75 recs pintobean Dec 2014 #480

And still you failed at locking anyone out. R B Garr Dec 2014 #486

76. pintobean Dec 2014 #488

Yet, the OP got locked out of his/her own thread. R B Garr Dec 2014 #490

Furious? It's hilarious. pintobean Dec 2014 #496

So have you counted how many times everyone has posted yet? R B Garr Dec 2014 #499

500 posts, 77 recs pintobean Dec 2014 #501

He/she certainly is on a mission! polly7 Dec 2014 #503

Lol. There's nothing on the hook pintobean Dec 2014 #512

No, silly. You count each posters total and announce that R B Garr Dec 2014 #506

Lol, if I didn't want to see a particular word used, the last thing I would sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #487

She accused me of kicking it to get more recs pintobean Dec 2014 #492

Irony isn't dead. I just rec'd it now because it's a shame to let all that work go to sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #495

Polly is a woman so she must be 'emotional' no? Women who stand sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #536

"dispute" what someone is saying? I just copied the words R B Garr Dec 2014 #541

You sure do make up a lot of bullshit. polly7 Dec 2014 #546

I copied your own words. You just got caught up R B Garr Dec 2014 #552

Keep going ........ you'll need to do better than that though. polly7 Dec 2014 #554

She/he's on a mission, Sabrina. polly7 Dec 2014 #543

Yes, absolutely. For years I've wondered why our foreign policies which sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #549

Thank you, and I've read everything you've written here for a decade polly7 Dec 2014 #551

I can't imagine either. I do remember having to force myself sometimes sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #555

Seeing them frog-marched to The Haque is a dream of mine. polly7 Dec 2014 #558

Yes, Tony Blair comes to mind! He is as bad as Cheney imo. Liar, war criminal sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #562

The 'Tony Blair Faith Foundation'!! polly7 Dec 2014 #564

Yes I did pintobean Dec 2014 #580

I knew you would be keeping track of it all! R B Garr Dec 2014 #581

In post #445 Polly referred to THIS thread. Not to any other thread. sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #514

omg. Please. From the top. Obviously it was that thread. R B Garr Dec 2014 #516

I never went to look at another thread - for anything .......... why would I? polly7 Dec 2014 #530

I copied your own words. Then you forgot what you wrote. R B Garr Dec 2014 #537

I didn't 'remember' any thread to copy from for anything. polly7 Dec 2014 #539

I copied your words from your post minutes after you wrote it. R B Garr Dec 2014 #542

Strange is that you think I need to go hunt down something from another thread polly7 Dec 2014 #545

Obsessed is posting something to a HoF member R B Garr Dec 2014 #561

I posted to a HoF member? polly7 Dec 2014 #563

"I have no fucking idea who's a HoF member" R B Garr Dec 2014 #569

I never mentioned Americans or bombing babies in my profile ........... ever. polly7 Dec 2014 #570

I'm on a mission? The emotional vomit on so many threads R B Garr Dec 2014 #572

81 recs, 573 replies, and 13,217 views pintobean Dec 2014 #574

Amazing. If those offended by "that word" hadn't kicked with a myriad of replies... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #575

All the clusterfuck threads are like this, lol. R B Garr Dec 2014 #578

lol, and I guess this is all I have to type to get to 13,000 posts! R B Garr Dec 2014 #579

Post it, link to it..... polly7 Dec 2014 #594

Polly, anyone who is familiar with your history... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #576

Oh yes, it's one of the reasons I had decided just reading here was probably best. polly7 Dec 2014 #595

You're welcome. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #598

I wouldn't waste too much effort here Polly. The anger towards other sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #607

I think a lot of it comes from people completely satisfied with how things work out polly7 Dec 2014 #616

Did you support Bush's war? Did you see the photos of the babies who were sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #605

It says a lot about you that you bumped this piece of shit thread. R B Garr Dec 2014 #608

Didn't you just bump this thread? NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #609

I think you may be correct. I certainly did NOT bump it, but did see it at the top of the sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #612

I'm trying to figure out why you and Polly... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #618

No, I don't recall this person at all. I guess if you disagree with sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #619

You're not making sense at all now. We are in THIS thread. Polly sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #604

It says a lot about you that you would bump this piece shit thread. R B Garr Dec 2014 #606

So many false statements in one comment, amazing! sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #610

I gave you polly's post number; I quoted her words. R B Garr Dec 2014 #613

So you have no links to back up your false statements, thanks, that's all I wanted to sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #615

Whoot! polly7 Dec 2014 #617

I honestly didn't get that he/she was trying for a gotcha moment, lol! polly7 Dec 2014 #531

I found what she wrote and she did not refer to any thread other than this. So sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #515

OMG, I highlighted the words from her own post R B Garr Dec 2014 #519

What are you going on about? polly7 Dec 2014 #529

Why are you so hell bent on slamming two well-respected DUers? NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #553

I've seen your posts, so forgive me if I don't take you seriously R B Garr Dec 2014 #556

Oh I can forgive you. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #559

You have a very odd definition of stalking. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #467

+1000 Puglover Dec 2014 #538

You know what that nonsense reminds me of? NuclearDem Dec 2014 #386

You know what your comment reminds me of, my time on sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #389

You did this exact same shit during the Rude Pundit debacle a few months ago. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #393

I am glad you noticed. I always do that 'shit' as you call it, btw, to many sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #396

Are you seriously suggesting "shit" is anywhere near tantamount NuclearDem Dec 2014 #399

Words are not offensive to me, CRIMES are. sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #402

WOW. Just WOW. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #404

Those are YOUR WORDS. So that is what you think about people who have sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #405

Fine, I'll use your words then. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #418

K&R good job on all your posts sabrina! B Calm Dec 2014 #424

Thank you .... sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #436

There is a pattern, but not the one you're thinking of... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #400

Who are you calling harpies? You are a Democratic committeman and you think the way you interact seaglass Dec 2014 #407

I'm thinking I may have to leave the party if that is the type or representation women get. boston bean Dec 2014 #410

You're not fighting for a damn thing. TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #413

I'm wondering how many votes you'd get if constituents knew while you "fought for gender justice" seaglass Dec 2014 #415

And I'm not responding, either. TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #419

Well, that's interesting. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #423

None whatsoever, unless... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #426

Yeah, I take umbrage with the word harpy... NuclearDem Dec 2014 #427

Missing the point completely... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #431

It's being called 'baiting' pintobean Dec 2014 #434

Lol, right? Lunacee_2013 Dec 2014 #511

well, someone didn't like the alert... ProdigalJunkMail Dec 2014 #425

Now there you go again .... polly7 Dec 2014 #411

R#18 & K for, best summary of all time!1 n/t UTUSN Dec 2014 #65

*sigh* Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #313

Whups, did I mess up?!1 UTUSN Dec 2014 #319

Truly, at this point in this thread, I myself am so confused, I don't know if black is white Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #325

Repeating, I Rec'ed for the attack on CHEENEE, was not focused on the one word. n/t UTUSN Dec 2014 #334

repeating ... that one word used in the Subject LIne is NOT an attack but a Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #335

I think you are very wise. OregonBlue Dec 2014 #67

Yeah we should do for the word "Cheney" vlyons Dec 2014 #237

Supreme Chickenhawk Cheney EEO Dec 2014 #69

English has a liberal, abundant, bountiful, bounteous, copious, plenteous, lavish, ample amount of CJCRANE Dec 2014 #70

+10000000000000000000000000 nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #72

And there's a lot of 'em too! benz380 Dec 2014 #93

ITA nt DawgHouse Dec 2014 #294

What a surprise. BlueStater Dec 2014 #71

Using a female attribute to disparage someone as weak and cowardly is wrong pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #77

Forgive me if I'm more concerned that... BlueStater Dec 2014 #80

Yes, the points made about Cheney in the OP are new and original here. *eyes* pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #97

Why do you have to rank them, as if your concerns have to be in competition? Demit Dec 2014 #104

Evidently, I do. BlueStater Dec 2014 #130

Here here! NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #132

The OP made a deliberate choice to use the word. Demit Dec 2014 #147

Just as an aside... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #148

Sure. I never found the word "gypped" to be offensive. Demit Dec 2014 #155

I'm with you on gypped to be sure. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #157

Correct. I am a white woman - never was offended by the term cracker and if someone called me one seaglass Dec 2014 #172

I think it can be generally assumed NuclearDem Dec 2014 #166

critical thinkers can be concerned about both Skittles Dec 2014 #231

yep so true nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #81

Yes, DU sucks at times, but not because of the reason you state. Glassunion Dec 2014 #175

giving credence to the wingers' cartoonish view of liberals Doctor_J Dec 2014 #358

Turns out Cheney's "undisclosed location" was Camp David.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #78

Yeesh -- this thread went south in a hurry. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #83

This is not FreeRepublikkk, "Jane." blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #84

She probably knew that when she joined DU pintobean Dec 2014 #92

But a lot of those folks brag about being here a long time. R B Garr Dec 2014 #95

No clue what you're talking about pintobean Dec 2014 #96

No clue at all? How odd. R B Garr Dec 2014 #98

"those folks"? pintobean Dec 2014 #108

I referenced your response to another poster, not the OP R B Garr Dec 2014 #110

You are killin' it in this thread! Sheldon Cooper Dec 2014 #111

.... R B Garr Dec 2014 #122

I know, right? Sheldon Cooper Dec 2014 #123

It's very transparent! R B Garr Dec 2014 #143

Ironically, you two seem to have that recall in common pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #118

Speaking of observing... R B Garr Dec 2014 #121

In a recent thread, I've seen what pintobean Dec 2014 #126

You seem to take issue with anyone here who is strongly R B Garr Dec 2014 #139

pfft pintobean Dec 2014 #146

"I was advocating support of Democrats." R B Garr Dec 2014 #160

That thread is a week old pintobean Dec 2014 #167

You had to reach back almost a year for Will's thread. R B Garr Dec 2014 #208

I just have to ask... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #250

Chickenhawk. The lot of the warmongers and profiteers in the BushCheney admin. Chickenhawks. Hekate Dec 2014 #94

cause what cheney's torture liked to use degrading and humiliating these men sexually in the way seabeyond Dec 2014 #99

Thank you! benz380 Dec 2014 #109

I wish you hadn't used that misogynistic slur. MineralMan Dec 2014 #100

Well, she did go ahead and tempt fate again. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #102

Hmph! MineralMan Dec 2014 #105

Don't mercuryblues Dec 2014 #247

Now we're flying apart. Major Hogwash Dec 2014 #406

LOL...I just now got that. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #599

It's not really that sad LordGlenconner Dec 2014 #567

He's a psychopath. Not the same thing. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #101

Short for "pusillanimous", right? N/t backscatter712 Dec 2014 #107

Very wrong. JTFrog Dec 2014 #114

I was joking. backscatter712 Dec 2014 #116

My bad... JTFrog Dec 2014 #117

Thank you. Major Hogwash Dec 2014 #112

"Chicken-hawk" was the usual term for 60's war-evaders. WinkyDink Dec 2014 #119

Um...not to nitpick, but that's not ENTIRELY correct. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #120

Mr. FIVE Deferments. Mr. "Other Priorities." Pussy is a good word to describe him. calimary Dec 2014 #124

The Romneys said their sons "served the country" by working in dad's campaign pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #128

Most sentient beings know the difference. Only those in willlful denial don't see it - calimary Dec 2014 #133

Whatever he is..he got a perfectly good heart.... peace13 Dec 2014 #127

Frankly I've thought he was actually a machine since about 2002. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #129

You told the truth,Bad move...You will now be attacked well and often. easychoice Dec 2014 #131

Amazing isn't it? NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #141

what's amazing is being told how to talk by people I wouldn't hire to easychoice Dec 2014 #165

Did you forget to add a sarcasm tag? KMOD Dec 2014 #185

you say that, as if sweeping your driveway or dumping your trash, is demeaning and beneath you. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #317

While I generally eschew any use of the p-word around here, Buns_of_Fire Dec 2014 #145

coward is a much stronger word/description, unless you want to just throw in some misogyny. seabeyond Dec 2014 #149

Are you equally offended... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #150

i was told men were offended when using male parts, even though they are mostly the ones doing it. seabeyond Dec 2014 #151

What sexist slurs have I used? NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #152

I think the silence answers yr question. You haven't used them n/t Violet_Crumble Dec 2014 #188

i did not state he uses them, but he stands with the use of sexist slurs. as he has said, a couple seabeyond Dec 2014 #193

I haven't seen him stand with the use of sexist slurs... Violet_Crumble Dec 2014 #195

because you jumped in drawing a false conclusion/accusation, lacking info is not my problem, violet. seabeyond Dec 2014 #196

There was no false conclusions or false accusations on my part... Violet_Crumble Dec 2014 #197

he throws out not using sexist slurs. you do the dreaded, silence... you must be correct. i never seabeyond Dec 2014 #199

Here's what you said. Violet_Crumble Dec 2014 #200

since he is advocating not hiding it, thru out this thread, i think i am pretty damn accurate. now, seabeyond Dec 2014 #202

Oh, really? What crap have I said about 'us' on DI? And who's 'us'? Violet_Crumble Dec 2014 #203

Thank goodness you didn't hold your breath, and you're still with us. polly7 Dec 2014 #468

I did consider trying to break the world record for breath holding... Violet_Crumble Dec 2014 #520

LOL... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #547

Read the thread again, Violet. Gormy Cuss Dec 2014 #220

I don't agree. Violet_Crumble Dec 2014 #228

Well, in the context of the OP it is not a reference to a cat. Gormy Cuss Dec 2014 #240

Yea, no gender slurs meant in the OP.... JTFrog Dec 2014 #267

I have no problem with it, because I don't consider it a slur. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #246

I'm pretty sure all these folks taking you to task on this thread are real. JTFrog Dec 2014 #282

I use the term "real life"... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #290

Believe it or not, there are several people who post here that know each other in real life. n/t JTFrog Dec 2014 #300

Yes, I believe that. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #301

but, I thought the whole point of the OP was to SLUR Dick Cheneny ... so, if it is NOT a slur then Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #318

I should have said "sexist slur." NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #321

Sorry but, I don't know this. I am female. My gentalia can be vulgarly referred to as a pussy ergo Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #327

The great thing about words you don't like: NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #330

And you don't get to tell others that they can't express boston bean Dec 2014 #336

Express away. I believe I have the same right. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #338

the great thing about the first amendment is = YES you get to say what you want and in return Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #337

If people can say what they want, then what's the argument about? NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #339

because the OP COMPLIMENTED Cheney by calling him a PUSSY and PEOPLE on DU are agreeing with it. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #341

Okay... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #342

Actually, the term, as applied in the OP pintobean Dec 2014 #343

Yet you keep saying the OP is locked out of this thread-- R B Garr Dec 2014 #347

Like many words, it has more than one meaning. pintobean Dec 2014 #349

Yet I haven't said a single thing about my opinion of the word R B Garr Dec 2014 #351

Is that right? pintobean Dec 2014 #354

Oh, yes. I'm right. R B Garr Dec 2014 #356

Anyone can look through this thread pintobean Dec 2014 #366

And "anyone" can see that it's bullshit that a grown man R B Garr Dec 2014 #367

I agreed with the OP and called her a strong woman. pintobean Dec 2014 #368

Wow, that's odd how you keep backtracking. R B Garr Dec 2014 #369

I see you kicked it again today pintobean Dec 2014 #449

Oh, still on your Rovian tactics, I see. R B Garr Dec 2014 #450

Those who have actually been paying attention know that you are very consistent on this issue. JTFrog Dec 2014 #153

thank you JT. nt seabeyond Dec 2014 #169

"Coward" works well. I'd love to see that thrown in his face during an interview. Buns_of_Fire Dec 2014 #173

I disagree with the idea that the word "pussy" should be connected with women at all. pnwmom Dec 2014 #174

So you think this poster was calling Cheney a cat. boston bean Dec 2014 #177

"beiber fangirl". poster purposely ties to the weak, cowardly woman, thru out her post. little girl seabeyond Dec 2014 #178

You seriously think the OP posted this to offend people? Seriously? NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #180

duh seabeyond Dec 2014 #182

Someone who's been around DU since 2001, using a term that's been contentious here many times? Gormy Cuss Dec 2014 #221

He is the poster boy for torture & felony, & should be called to account for what he created. mother earth Dec 2014 #154

LOL didya get offended when mercuryblues Dec 2014 #159

+1. nt seabeyond Dec 2014 #170

You mean the post you had locked? NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #171

the op mercuryblues Dec 2014 #189

I thought the OP was posted by a female. B Calm Dec 2014 #205

Yes, she is. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #242

I checked out this hidden post, wow. . B Calm Dec 2014 #322

I saw it and a couple more. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #323

Yea, that's what happened. JTFrog Dec 2014 #372

I wonder if they are offended by the name of the rock band Pussy Riot too? B Calm Dec 2014 #385

I don't find it the least bit offensive. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #534

If you don't find it the least bit offensive, then why do you say someone insulted JQP? JTFrog Dec 2014 #583

Because it was obvious that your group intended it that way. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #584

No, it's obvious that she was making a point. JTFrog Dec 2014 #586

Well thank you for that JTF. Bless you too :) NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #588

If you think the word's a slur, you shouldn't be using it either... Violet_Crumble Dec 2014 #187

you may want mercuryblues Dec 2014 #209

I did. And I still don't understand why you thought it was okay to use that term.. Violet_Crumble Dec 2014 #211

so says you mercuryblues Dec 2014 #216

No, I've been asking you repeatedly why you think it's okay for you to use a slur... Violet_Crumble Dec 2014 #219

have I mercuryblues Dec 2014 #222

You posted the slur in an attack on another woman, so it's clear yr okay with using it... Violet_Crumble Dec 2014 #225

Oh, come on now. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #245

OK, now I get it. You don't understand the difference between referring to a woman's genitalia seaglass Dec 2014 #251

Well, I will frankly admit... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #252

Yep if we don't open our minds to new ideas and learning, even if we don't like it, our seaglass Dec 2014 #254

he's also a WAR CRIMINAL. spanone Dec 2014 #176

I bet the PC police attacked this post. B Calm Dec 2014 #179

i thought "pc police" was brought to us by limbaugh and the repugs? seabeyond Dec 2014 #181

Actually it was originally from the book What's The Matter With Kansas! B Calm Dec 2014 #183

i think limbaugh, along with feminazi and flaming liberal. seabeyond Dec 2014 #184

I'm sure he has mentioned those two words. Limbaugh say's a lot of things. . B Calm Dec 2014 #186

No. boston bean Dec 2014 #190

Have you read What's The Matter With Kansas? B Calm Dec 2014 #191

um no, that is not correct. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #621

I really hope nobody ever tells Dick Cheney about this thread. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #248

I bet the sexist jerks defend it. nt Logical Dec 2014 #291

Lots of outrage, some phoney, some not. B Calm Dec 2014 #298

I'm happy with War Criminal! It is a legal term that accurately sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #192

Yes, those are all certainly accurate terms. I would be surprised if anyone on DU disagreed. n/t seaglass Dec 2014 #194

+ a billion! n/t Violet_Crumble Dec 2014 #198

Wait a minute!!! MissDeeds Dec 2014 #201

It was already alerted. They jury voted to leave. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #244

No Dick Cheney is a DICK! Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #206

My cats are offended. roamer65 Dec 2014 #207

LOL B Calm Dec 2014 #212

I can think of a few other descriptions rather than a pussy Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2014 #210

More like a Prick madokie Dec 2014 #214

Careful, lol the PC Police are trolling this thread. B Calm Dec 2014 #215

OOOPs madokie Dec 2014 #217

JaneQ.. that your misogynistic use of a gender-based slur to get attention to your thread was not hlthe2b Dec 2014 #224

She went to hof to defend herself in a call-out thread pintobean Dec 2014 #297

Even though she's been blocked from replying, that don't stop the PC police B Calm Dec 2014 #332

oh, for FUCKS SAKE�. MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #328

As I posted in another reply... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #340

The OP did so with their choice of slurs. hlthe2b Dec 2014 #350

Awww� what child is this... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #357

Makes ya wonder sometimes, doesn't it... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #375

Oh, great pintobean Dec 2014 #377

If you think that's funny... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #380

I assumed every one of my posts were alerted. pintobean Dec 2014 #382

Yes, you do like to be amused by the jury system. R B Garr Dec 2014 #388

Did it sting? pintobean Dec 2014 #390

See, this is your stock-in-trade. R B Garr Dec 2014 #392

Wrong. I very rarely alert on replies to me. pintobean Dec 2014 #394

What made replies to you the only barometer? R B Garr Dec 2014 #398

He is far worse than a pussy. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #229

Have you considered the possibility that black is white, and white is black Sweeney Dec 2014 #233

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #235

This message was self-deleted by its author Sweeney Dec 2014 #236

I knew a Sweeney once. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #238

This message was self-deleted by its author Sweeney Dec 2014 #239

i was on that jury noiretextatique Dec 2014 #383

Color me gone Sweeney Dec 2014 #620

Just saw your thread, you know you will be alerted on! akbacchus_BC Dec 2014 #230

It was already alerted. They jury voted to leave. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #243

50 recs. Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #234

Well, the OP IS telling the truth about Cheney bigwillq Dec 2014 #271

Many of those recs are from du members who are sick of the PC police B Calm Dec 2014 #302

yes. many of the rec are simply for the fact a sexist slur was used. wow, something to brag about. seabeyond Dec 2014 #303

LOL B Calm Dec 2014 #304

It wasn't a sexist slur. You know as well as anyone she didn't mean it that way. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #306

grovel like a bieber fangirl. do not tell me what i think and know, regardless of my posts in this seabeyond Dec 2014 #307

Wait - I thought you were upset about the OP. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #308

wait. your posting history shows sexism is not an issue for you. you do not recognize it. seabeyond Dec 2014 #314

Actuall, you're wrong. REAL sexism is very much an issue for me. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #315

BINGO! Manufactured outrage. B Calm Dec 2014 #311

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #361

Like you? You're the one who mentioned it. boston bean Dec 2014 #363

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #365

Did 70 people really think SI is evil? NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #591

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #593

I don't remember the rec policing or counting. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #600

That is true. The OP now has over 11,000 views. That's a good thing as it means a whole sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #513

You just offended my genitalia. Quantess Dec 2014 #241

Pussies are strong, resilient, beautiful, and create life. Recursion Dec 2014 #249

I think the OP used the term "pussy" just to be inflammatory. raccoon Dec 2014 #253

Trashing this tread. yuiyoshida Dec 2014 #266

Yo, tambien. demmiblue Dec 2014 #316

I would agree with you.. yuiyoshida Dec 2014 #364

Well said, JQP. Paladin Dec 2014 #274

I'm always so flattered when persons boston bean Dec 2014 #275

I think it has been well established... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #277

In the context it was used here in this OP boston bean Dec 2014 #278

The thing about opinions - they're not facts... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #279

We got a lot of people that use sexist language. boston bean Dec 2014 #280

Like I said about opinions... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #283

Take what you say about opinions and apply them to yourself. boston bean Dec 2014 #285

I don't doubt that for a second. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #287

I would like to think a lot of things to make a better world. boston bean Dec 2014 #288

"I would like to think a lot of things to make a better world." NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #289

Well, I know my idea does not include using sexist/misogynistic/racist/homophobic language. boston bean Dec 2014 #296

You see, when "most" people don't consider it a slur, it's perfectly fine. DawgHouse Dec 2014 #292

JaneQP I refuse to associate that evil WhiteTara Dec 2014 #305

misogyny PowerToThePeople Dec 2014 #310

I prefer to call him a war criminal of a malaise Dec 2014 #320

Hey, Jane... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #324

Actually, the OP was alerted on. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #326

Yes� I engaged fingers before reading entire thread on that one... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #329

Stay Classy, DU. Socal31 Dec 2014 #331

This is calm. Wait until the SI Swimsuit Issue comes out. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #344

I think you have more posts in this thread than anyone else. Wonder what that says about you. n/t seaglass Dec 2014 #345

That I find it interesting? NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #346

What is interesting? The OP certainly wasn't, it was unoriginal and poorly written. Without the seaglass Dec 2014 #348

As is the case with most threads... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #352

Yeah, I guess if the conversation hadn't been had a million times already it would be. n/t seaglass Dec 2014 #353

This is the first time I've engaged in the conversation. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #355

Some sexist slurs must be more equal than others. delta17 Dec 2014 #359

Par for the course. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #360

Some people here just look for things to be offended by. BlueStater Dec 2014 #376

There are so many people offended by people discussing the sexist and homophobic usage of the word boston bean Dec 2014 #409

I personally wish the people offended by one commonly-used word... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #535

Yes, I've noticed that. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #533

The Power of Words. You could have called him a coward. Coward works just fine. but then CBGLuthier Dec 2014 #333

Yes, and an asshole! punkin87 Dec 2014 #362

It's a tad problematic to call someone weak by referring to a female body part. alarimer Dec 2014 #370

Hi! I'm Dick, and what a wuss I am (rhymes with�.) MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #374

Do you remember the 2004 Republican National Convention . . . Major Hogwash Dec 2014 #378

Neither will I� what a bunch of whores... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #379

Cheney, Bush, Rice, and the rest of the gang need to be prosecuted for war crimes, lying, and dissentient Dec 2014 #397

I'd like to see Cheney have a good sit-down with John McCain. AngryOldDem Dec 2014 #408

The op says a lot more about you than it does Cheney. NCTraveler Dec 2014 #417

Good grief� could you be more descriptive? MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #470

Your comment is hilarious! Major Hogwash Dec 2014 #481

If we are using body parts is he more of a BOOB or a DICK snooper2 Dec 2014 #428

What's wrong with being sexy? nt Bonobo Dec 2014 #432

He is not which you cannot prove so stop saying that! KamaAina Dec 2014 #441

What other insensitive perjoratives do you use? LexVegas Dec 2014 #442

Don't know why that was necessary. It's a subject guaranteed to cause DUers to fight with each other stevenleser Dec 2014 #447

You win........ Dick Cheney IS a pussy. NM_Birder Dec 2014 #455

The words we use have an amazing power to impact the way we think. dawg Dec 2014 #464

you know when you use sexist terms, you only let the Waddaboutists win! gort Dec 2014 #465

Shouldn't this post be locked as off-topic by now? KMOD Dec 2014 #474

Is that the goal of the PC police? B Calm Dec 2014 #525

I wish they would just post a list of words... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #571

I wonder.... Lunacee_2013 Dec 2014 #504

Go ahead. delta17 Dec 2014 #582

+1 Go Vols Dec 2014 #585

Do I really need to explain why Lunacee_2013 Dec 2014 #603

Yes, he is. PeteSelman Dec 2014 #522

Nothing lower to call Cheney? No term more insulting, NM_Birder Dec 2014 #540

If a term for male genitalia was used... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #587

Mitt Romney will release his tax returns delta17 Dec 2014 #589

LOL...yeah, on reflection, I've decided not to hold my breath. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #590

GHOUL, a word understood around the world. Keep Tweety bird happy! Sunlei Dec 2014 #548

Dick Cheney is a coward and a chickenhawk Gothmog Dec 2014 #566

my dream is for him to go on Rachel Maddow .lol. He would probably try and strangle her. SummerSnow Dec 2014 #577

He is a dick, not a pussy! akbacchus_BC Dec 2014 #596

He's both! B Calm Dec 2014 #601

he's a coward, fool, imbecile, cold blooded, maybe a killer samsingh Dec 2014 #602

Anyone that would shoot you in the face and blame you for it after a few drinks Rex Dec 2014 #611

May Cheney have a miserable 2015. lpbk2713 Jan 2015 #622