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MADem

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29. It's more about holding out a false hope to get people all excited (and divided in yet another

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:52 PM

Dec 2014

direction) for no good reason. Keep 'em scattered, chasing rainbows, and maybe they'll get distracted and demoralized....yeah, that's the ticket!

EW has told both Ready For Warren AND MoveOn.org to push off.

If she wanted to run, the way to do isn't to formally disavow the people raising money. She already knows that the deep pockets that put her in the Senate are NOT with her--why? Because they are the same deep pockets who are backing HRC, and they have TOLD her that that's where their money is going.

People can keep digging for that pony, or they can click on the links and read the woman's OWN words. Who thought, here of all places, that people would be arguing a "No doesn't mean NO" approach, particularly when EW even uses her own lawyer to make it clear to the FEC and everyone else -- "Stop raising money, I am not in this thing."

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Mr. Russert: So you will not run for president or vice president in 2008? Sen. Obama: I will not. [View all] Faryn Balyncd Dec 2014 OP

What are you trying to say, you just know Warren is going to change her mind also? Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #1

nope. Faryn Balyncd Dec 2014 #3

Look, I don't care if you get all hot and bothered QuestionAlways Dec 2014 #42

Agree. Faryn Balyncd Dec 2014 #43

It's more about holding out a false hope to get people all excited (and divided in yet another MADem Dec 2014 #29

If you were against dividing people Union Scribe Dec 2014 #54

I'll do that when they stop infantalizing an adult Senator from my state, treating her like a MADem Dec 2014 #55

So that's a no Union Scribe Dec 2014 #57

So that's a so. OilemFirchen Dec 2014 #59

So you endorse the enfantalizing? MADem Dec 2014 #62

I disagree with that characterization Union Scribe Dec 2014 #63

Well, I disagree with your characterizations, so we're even, then, eh? MADem Dec 2014 #64

WTF? Union Scribe Dec 2014 #66

It's not an unhinged thing to say at all--it's a political calculation. Why do you make everything MADem Dec 2014 #67

Zing! n/t benz380 Dec 2014 #2

:) Dawgs Dec 2014 #4

Seems to me the irrational folks are the ones who never let a day go by without posting djean111 Dec 2014 #5

I like it when they say she's already endorsed Clinton Capt. Obvious Dec 2014 #6

Liz hasn't officially endorsed anyone because nobody is officially running, yet. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #14

But Warren signed a letter or something!!1 HappyMe Dec 2014 #16

It's a done deal Capt. Obvious Dec 2014 #18

Her speaking slot will be her nomination acceptance speech. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #20

Liz doesn't need a speaking slot at the convention. She's the head Autumn Dec 2014 #22

True Capt. Obvious Dec 2014 #24

No longer a lion in the Senate. We have a Lioness in the Senate. Autumn Dec 2014 #25

Lioness! Yes! Voice for Peace Dec 2014 #37

.... MADem Dec 2014 #32

No, she's not. MADem Dec 2014 #31

Iremember who it was and yes I agree he just may be VP. Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #34

Agreed. I have never seen such an obsession with trying to turn a declarative sentence in ... Faryn Balyncd Dec 2014 #10

that's a really interesting spelling. Voice for Peace Dec 2014 #38

!!! very interesting !!! Faryn Balyncd Dec 2014 #68

There's an oldie but a goodie. Liz isn't running, neither was Obama. Obama did run Autumn Dec 2014 #7

Obama and Warren are politicians. NCTraveler Dec 2014 #8

Blasphemer !!! JoePhilly Dec 2014 #53

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #9

It's the "say no three times before taking the crown" thing. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #11

What does it mean when you say "no" dozens of times, and have your lawyer write letters to the MADem Dec 2014 #33

Whoa.. "..Senator Warren has publicly announced she is not running for President in 2016.. " Cha Dec 2014 #48

She also told MoveOn.Org to take a hike, but they're ignoring that, too. MADem Dec 2014 #49

They should write her a letter and ask her themselves.. or get someone from Mass to ask her.. Cha Dec 2014 #50

They're going to have a "poll" to gauge "support." As others have pointed out, if they want MADem Dec 2014 #51

zing!... SidDithers Dec 2014 #56

Asked in 2006 about the 2008 election. Do folks really take such answers seriously? stone space Dec 2014 #12

Some do take it serious, but IMO they are scared of her running. It might upset their Autumn Dec 2014 #15

The temptation to feign seriousness may be great. stone space Dec 2014 #17

Gore: "I don't have plans to be a candidate again" NYC Liberal Dec 2014 #13

Someone or many here is or are eating it now. LMFAO L0oniX Dec 2014 #19

POINT 1: 2 years before campaigning started... brooklynite Dec 2014 #21

nope. Faryn Balyncd Dec 2014 #27

Ah, yes.... "THEY." MADem Dec 2014 #35

Obama also had grassroots supporters around the country JI7 Dec 2014 #45

Not for nothing is Howard Dean a Hillary Clinton fan. MADem Dec 2014 #46

So, Vinca, you will never eat chocolate again because you're a fatso? Vinca: No, I will not. Vinca Dec 2014 #23

Another lie, perhaps? Or, the money from Wall Street was just too good to pass up??? blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #26

And he almost lost by waiting so long. Is that the point you are trying to make? nt stevenleser Dec 2014 #28

The point . . . Faryn Balyncd Dec 2014 #40

It's not "way too early." She hasn't met with a soul at the state level. MADem Dec 2014 #47

"that makes her a LIAR, and she is NOT one of those" OilemFirchen Dec 2014 #58

All we have to do step back and look at the big BIG picture and we can see what's up. MADem Dec 2014 #61

Message jalan48 Dec 2014 #30

By the 2006 midterm the Obama machine was geared up and running. Exultant Democracy Dec 2014 #36

If she really is not intending or wanting to run this time, Voice for Peace Dec 2014 #39

Whether she runs or not, LondonReign2 Dec 2014 #41

And by December of 2006, he was speaking at events in New Hampshire MohRokTah Dec 2014 #44

The search for the new Messiah is amusing. JoePhilly Dec 2014 #52

They all say no. The timing of when they say yes I'm running is all very well orchestrated. liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #60

And 2 years later, Obama had him killed... SidDithers Dec 2014 #65