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In reply to the discussion: There will be a Primary, and if Hillary wants to be President [View all]Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)and I don't much care for Hillary, don't hate her like many people here do, but I did not vote for her last time either. Warren, I spent yesterday on the phone and I'm liking her a bit more, but she has not spoken about many important areas of policy and in spite of what others might think, her being part of the Nixon through Reagan Republican movement and Party does require quite of a few different explanations and a clearly visible new direction. She did something recently I very much liked and which is very much the sort of thing people with her history need to be doing to make amends.
So. I say that to say this: I like Warren better than I like her supporters. Same for Clinton. I like candidates that are ready for the fight of their lives. A candidate whose supporters freak out when the candidate is asked valid questions do not help their candidate. The Warren people who attempt to minimize Republican horrors, who actually ask of AIDS was really that bad, they make me very hesitant to vote for her. I also do not at all care for the casual double standards employed.
To ding one candidate for being a 'Goldwater Girl' when she was too young to vote would be fine with me, you bet, I was a Democratic child. But to ding that person for that while waving away 25 or 30 years of full grown, full blown adult Republican loyalty is hypocritical. It just is.
And people who employ double standards create a world of double standards, rules for thee but not for me, I have impunity and you have no protection, I have rights and you do not. It is not a small matter. It is a rhetorical choice that reflects the ethics of those who use it.
I do not think for a moment that Warren would bring up Goldwater to Hillary because Warren voted for Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush and Hillary never voted for Goldwater. But her supporters don't mind doing that. And it is shitty.
If I'd never met a Warren supporter I'd like Warren much, much more. Talking to DC yesterday, I like her more. But 'was AIDS really that bad' is not helping. The dinging the other for a flaw she has to a far greater degree is not helping. One of the reasons AIDS was ignored was that Republicans use a double standard. The people who were dying were not up to the standards they apply to straights and whites. You do the math.