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me b zola

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37. At the core, all adoptions begin with tremedous loss
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 10:31 AM
Dec 2014

Until people are willing to hear and process this, they are not going to be open to listening to any other point of view than their own.

But the idea that celebrities use adoptees, especially trans-racial adoptees as fashion accessories, and yeah, adoption reform activists are acutely aware of this trend. Just recently it was Kim Kardashian who found a cute little girl in an orphanage and "just had to have her". Luckily, this little girl was old enough to say "no". Most children in orphanages are not old enough to say no. The little girl, like most children in orphanages, has a mother and a family. Most are there because their families cannot not provide enough food or education, but are very much wanted and loved.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2840460/Life-Kardashians-d-stay-poverty-Thailand-13-year-old-orphan-girl-Kim-desperate-adopt-says-NO.html


The Uncomfortable Place of Inter-Country Adoption in the Human Rights Arena


~snip~
ICA is largely the response to a demand for children in developed countries rather than to absence of care in the countries of origin. Taking children away does not lead to any improvement of the protection of children in those countries but rather the contrary. (Chou and Browne, 2008).

According to human rights conventions such as the UDHR and the ICESCR, motherhood should be protected and parents have a right to social protection and assistance. Enforcement of these rights would, in many cases, prevent the separation of children from their families. And if they don’t, the state has a duty to provide a suitable form of care. According to article 20 of the UNCRC, when considering solutions ‘due regard shall be paid to the desirability of continuity in a child’s upbringing and to the child’s ethnic, religious, cultural and linguistic background.’ From a human rights perspective, sending children in ICA can be regarded as the result of a country’s failure to fulfil its international human rights law obligations.

~more @ link:
http://ohrh.law.ox.ac.uk/the-uncomfortable-place-of-inter-country-adoption-in-the-human-rights-arena/


Finally, most adoptees do not feel safe to talk about issues surrounding adoption with friends and family, they mimic back what they think they are expected to say. I encourage all DUers to watch this film about one trans-racial/inter country adoptee:



There are extremely complex issues inherent in adoption, and those complexities are multiplied in trans-racial and inter-country adoptions.

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trans-racial adoption IS “cultural genocide.” mwrguy Dec 2014 #1
How common is it? XemaSab Dec 2014 #3
the statement is from 1971. See post #2 Iris Dec 2014 #4
Yes, it's so horrible when a white person is parent to a non-white child. Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #5
Great reply cwydro Dec 2014 #15
She gave birth to him - is his biomom JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #28
Ah, so if she had happened to adopt him it would have been "cultural genocide", Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #31
Don't you put words into my mouth JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #34
The child of a mixed race couple raised by his white mom. Apples/oranges. NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #50
So if she had happened to adopt him, instead of giving birth to him, Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #51
I'm looking at post #51 JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #59
Evil nonsense. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #10
What nonsense. cwydro Dec 2014 #16
Ya know what? Adrahil Dec 2014 #19
Couldn't Agree More RobinA Dec 2014 #56
No, it's not. Orsino Dec 2014 #21
No, it's not. And attempting to use the word genocide in relation to this is offensive. nt stevenleser Dec 2014 #26
I actually have a fairly high bar for being offended... Pacifist Patriot Dec 2014 #35
We do it the old school way snooper2 Dec 2014 #46
A counter-view to the original 1971 NABSW claim: A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2014 #2
Thank you - I knew that this study existed but did not have a link. In 1971 when the first article jwirr Dec 2014 #8
Mahalo for that, A.. It sounded like BS when I saw it upthread.. Cha Dec 2014 #14
I adore the photo in your post ... it is awesome! etherealtruth Dec 2014 #61
Speaking of using black babies as props mwrguy Dec 2014 #6
A good friend of mine is black. His adopted parents were German Jews . . . Journeyman Dec 2014 #7
Clearly, they weren't capable of teaching their children to copa with a racist society. hughee99 Dec 2014 #9
I'd just like to point out that Charlize Theron IS African... justiceischeap Dec 2014 #11
Bullshite.. Amy Pascal has already shown herself to be a racist in earlier hacked emails.. and you Cha Dec 2014 #12
Sure Cha Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #13
+1 JTFrog Dec 2014 #17
Thanks Frog.. I thought it deserved a better reply... than "sure Cha".. Cha Dec 2014 #18
Really Cha Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #33
Amy P is shallow, racist, and cynical to the core. Parenthood by whatever means can turn out... Hekate Dec 2014 #20
"Stars adoption of black children was little more than Cha Dec 2014 #22
Agree on the jealous mean girl thing JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #30
They were just awful when they thought no one else would ever in a million years read Cha Dec 2014 #36
Here's a picture of Amy Pascal and Angelina Jolie. Are_grits_groceries Dec 2014 #23
Black children are disproportionately represented in foster care. RedCappedBandit Dec 2014 #24
You might have a point if most stars adopted children in the united states. Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #42
And what is your data on where 'most stars' adopt? Got any? Of course not. Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #48
Giving birth does a lot more to a woman's body than create stretch marks. cyberswede Dec 2014 #53
Absolutely. I agree 100%. kwassa Dec 2014 #43
Getting one's philosophy from the movie 'Bruno' seems a poor choice stevenleser Dec 2014 #25
I have an adopted black daughter, but I'm not a Star! kwassa Dec 2014 #27
Oh you horrible JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #38
This went unfortunately into a big 'greater discussion' JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #29
The gift that keeps on giving. Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #32
At the core, all adoptions begin with tremedous loss me b zola Dec 2014 #37
Thank you. Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #39
The same kind of arguments that were used for anti-miscegenation laws (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #40
you were doing ok until this last bit kwassa Dec 2014 #41
There is a difference between being aware of a culture. Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #44
Whatever. Culture is dynamic, not static. kwassa Dec 2014 #45
Awesome they represent children from 90 different nations Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #47
You seem to be ignoring the historical process of acculturation. LanternWaste Dec 2014 #52
"Different cultures gotta stick to their own". Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #49
Then Amy Pascal is a racist asshole. nt arely staircase Dec 2014 #54
what about all the chinese girls? pansypoo53219 Dec 2014 #55
Well, according to some DUers your cousin is guilty of cultural genocide. Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #57
You've forwarded the premise that cross-cultural adoptions are genocide. LanternWaste Dec 2014 #58
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #60
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