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27. You lost me

Reply to Pantagruelsmember (Reply #16)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 06:13 PM

Dec 2014

when you said "excellent leader".

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Capitulation Is Not Compromise - 'Obama legacy will be viewed as one of sheer ineptitude' [View all] Ykcutnek Dec 2014 OP

people may have been correct when they said he was too "green" for the job belzabubba333 Dec 2014 #1

depends on the definition of the job Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #76

Only in the sense that he was beholden too much on Wall Street yurbud Dec 2014 #90

Sad to write, but 'Capitulation' has been the Order of the Day. Octafish Dec 2014 #2

So the solution would be not to vote for Obama for a third term? All righty then..... Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #3

A government shut down and default would have been wiser. Just wait, the GOP will do it in 2016. freshwest Dec 2014 #66

I get the feeling that you are ok with the status quo. Always with the clever(?) comments while rhett o rick Dec 2014 #67

I know for certain that you are not sure what I am sure about.....you got a problem with clever? Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #78

You are right of course. I don't know what you are about because you cleverly don't rhett o rick Dec 2014 #80

I bet he was bullied as a child? kentuck Dec 2014 #4

Hillary's supporters have been proven right that Obama was untested, too inexperienced for the job AZ Progressive Dec 2014 #5

It's starting to feel as if his only goal is to satisfy his own ambitions. Ykcutnek Dec 2014 #8

I've thought that for a while now. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2014 #14

Yes.. sendero Dec 2014 #56

I don't think so Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2014 #69

"Except for the war thing" - TBF Dec 2014 #75

and Hillary would have been even more a sellout than obama Robbins Dec 2014 #9

No, Hillary supporters were wrong then and wrong now about that. leftofcool Dec 2014 #52

have been proven right? DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #53

Not at all. Obama just turned out to be as bought-and-paid-for as she is. /nt Marr Dec 2014 #86

Teddy Roosevelt had a history of being a fighter and FDR's hero was Teddy AZ Progressive Dec 2014 #6

Can you imagine Obama threatening to nationalize the mines? SMC22307 Dec 2014 #51

It is not inept if you accomplish your goals. wilsonbooks Dec 2014 #7

Thread winner. Fuddnik Dec 2014 #11

Yep sulphurdunn Dec 2014 #24

Exactly. bvar22 Dec 2014 #43

2008 was the only Dem Presidential primary in 4 decades that I Zorra Dec 2014 #57

Agree 1,000,000% 99Forever Dec 2014 #10

Good article dissentient Dec 2014 #12

Total Bull Andy823 Dec 2014 #13

I don't know this place anymore CatWoman Dec 2014 #15

Covering our eyes and ears and shouting "LA LA LA LA LA" Maedhros Dec 2014 #18

being a world class jerk doesn't help very much either CatWoman Dec 2014 #22

Well, I guess you'd know. [n/t] Maedhros Dec 2014 #23

Obviously, Cat definitely knows when she encounters one. Cha Dec 2014 #63

If you consider criticising the President for supporting a bill that cuts pensions, Pell grants, liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #21

Denial sulphurdunn Dec 2014 #25

I won't blast you like the other respondents but I would be interested in seeing your Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #29

Yep, sad. nt stevenleser Dec 2014 #38

Seems that way, doesn't it? greatauntoftriplets Dec 2014 #46

Seems that way Andy823 Dec 2014 #48

Actually, yes. It's pretty toxic around here, so much so ... Hekate Dec 2014 #58

You must excuse those here that were hoping for change. After 2000 they thought that rhett o rick Dec 2014 #68

When a president who promised change... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #88

Liberals always do this Pantagruelsmember Dec 2014 #16

That's some very weak gruel, there. Maedhros Dec 2014 #19

About 80% of Americans would disagree BobbyBoring Dec 2014 #20

50% of Americans think torture is OK too. Argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy and stevenleser Dec 2014 #40

Do you have proof Andy823 Dec 2014 #49

Get real Pantagruelsmember Dec 2014 #61

You lost me dissentient Dec 2014 #27

That stood out to me too. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #87

Recognized the dangers of carbon dioxide? sulphurdunn Dec 2014 #34

Well said. nt stevenleser Dec 2014 #39

The List is back Doctor_J Dec 2014 #41

Agreed. Histor will be kind to Obama. Albertoo Dec 2014 #47

History will remember him as mediocre. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #89

No, it won't. History is always good to leaders who lead out of economic malaise. Nt stevenleser Dec 2014 #93

Ignore ' the ready for Hillary clan', they 're still pissed off that Hillary didn't win. Stellar Dec 2014 #59

"... there has been no appreciable inflation." SMC22307 Dec 2014 #60

The writter assumes Obama didn't want to help Wall Street and the future helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #17

is capitulation synonymous with complicity? stupidicus Dec 2014 #26

So we just ignore the explanation? ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #28

vox is little more than the WH's remote press office. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #32

Like I said, ignore the explanation ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #33

I read it. It notes the center of the controversy is the preception the President capitulated. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #35

Even with all the bad stuff in it ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #36

Of those listed points which ones would you keep in exchange for Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #37

ALL OF THEM!!! ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #42

And the absolute surrender buys you, what? A year? Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #44

Did you read what I wrote? ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #45

Once again, you ruined a good bashfest with detailed questions supported by facts BeyondGeography Dec 2014 #77

The argument presumes the certainty of the Dodd-Frank roll-back will be superceded by Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #82

Today Mr. Ineptitude normalized relations with Cuba BeyondGeography Dec 2014 #91

The explanation to give up a whole lot because it could be worse is crap. rhett o rick Dec 2014 #71

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #74

Wow that's some predictions. There are a lot of if's in there. rhett o rick Dec 2014 #79

Really? ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #83

He refused to prosecute war crimes Kelvin Mace Dec 2014 #30

Can we just impeach him already? zappaman Dec 2014 #31

Honestly Andy823 Dec 2014 #50

yup and DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #54

Why do I want to rec this? PowerToThePeople Dec 2014 #55

"Compromise for the sake of compromise" BULLSHIT BootinUp Dec 2014 #62

If only Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #84

No it won't.. just because some hack(Lance Simmens) writes it on huffpo and someone Cha Dec 2014 #64

Obama Didn't Get Anything Like the Sort of Cooperation an Incoming President Elected by a Landslide� AndyTiedye Dec 2014 #65

Or even one who does not win the popular vote loyalsister Dec 2014 #73

If you were in President Obama's place, what would you have done? akbacchus_BC Dec 2014 #70

The world does not revolve around Blanche Lincoln's push-out rule. ucrdem Dec 2014 #72

Actually there are three possible explanations for the President's actions tularetom Dec 2014 #81

That may be it. Tatiana Dec 2014 #85

LOL Drunken Irishman Dec 2014 #92