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TorchTheWitch

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49. there was quite a number that corroborated his account mostly

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 09:44 PM

Dec 2014

Some said he charged, some said he moved slower. The point is that Wilson ordered him to stop and Brown kept moving toward him, that he didn't put his hands up in surrender or get down on his knees, etc. Not all of the witnesses saw everything and not from the same vantage point. Most of them corroborate most of Wilson's account.

All of the witnesses that claim Brown put his hands up/went to his knees in surrender were friends or family members of either Brown or Johnson. Their stories aren't detailed, some admit that they recited things they heard rather than saw themselves (#16), get the number of officers wrong (two cops in the car - Wilson and another), get the color of the Monte Carlo wrong, claim they were watching something else for the same amount of time the entire incident took place, otherwise change their stories, etc.

The link is all the documents from the grand jury. I don't know why there isn't a document of a police interview with Witness #40, but apparently from what was said in the YouTube link of the interview there was one and it was presented to the grand jury along with her racist journal entry and before she testified. The YouTube link goes through all of that.

Hey, I'd be MORE than happy to go through every single witness account both police interviews and grand jury testimony. I'd have thought that once the documents came out that people would actually be interested in that. Fat chance... nobody here gave a crap about evidence at any time to the present in this case either eyewitness or forensic. And there's a damn good reason why no one is... the witness accounts don't portray what they'd like them to.

I just don't get the hoopla concerning Witness #40. The grand jury was presented with the information about her that makes her not a credible witness as well as a racist. Obviously, they would have discounted her.

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Smoking Gun: Wilson grand jury Witness #40-a liar & convicted felon was "Nowhere Near Canfield Dr" [View all] kpete Dec 2014 OP

use the tip line at the bottom to report a crime of perjury belzabubba333 Dec 2014 #1

her made up story is utterly bizarre Enrique Dec 2014 #2

What will they do about it now? That report from Laurian Dec 2014 #3

Much more here -- her YouTube comments, her FB shares.. GreatGazoo Dec 2014 #4

A lying bipolar who seeks public attention is all the FPD could come up with as a witness. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #5

"all" they could come up with? TorchTheWitch Dec 2014 #35

Really? Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #37

2 witnesses corroborated wilsonthepigs heaven05 Dec 2014 #41

there was quite a number that corroborated his account mostly TorchTheWitch Dec 2014 #49

you can defend wilsonthepig heaven05 Dec 2014 #55

and you talk about critical thinking skills TorchTheWitch Dec 2014 #59

you need to stop trying to heaven05 Dec 2014 #60

FYI: I started a thread about the infamous Witness #40 back on Dec 2. Not sure KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #6

How that person was allowed any where near the witness stand... etherealtruth Dec 2014 #8

That thread led me to reading that part of the transcript right away! logosoco Dec 2014 #18

No double jeopardy attaches to Grand Jury proceedings and there is no statute KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #20

I'm waiting on the heaven05 Dec 2014 #34

yes, yes you did heaven05 Dec 2014 #42

I am sure this is a big story on Fox right? zeemike Dec 2014 #7

I hear FOX is doing a huge expose of this on the Twelfth�. blm Dec 2014 #11

And that's a long, long time. zeemike Dec 2014 #38

I still can't believe the Justice Department is not yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #9

it's run by holder. no surprise there, yeoman roguevalley Dec 2014 #26

An armchair amateur could read that 'journal entry' and know it was BS blm Dec 2014 #10

TSG Satire? & Witness #10 BrettsJets Dec 2014 #12

Who was deemed most credible and what 'news' outlet deemed them so? blm Dec 2014 #13

BTW, McCulloch's 'ultra-transparency' was a gimmick to add the junk testimony blm Dec 2014 #14

No, TSG is not a satire page. It's a repository of FOIA documents. Gormy Cuss Dec 2014 #17

This jumped out at me: mountain grammy Dec 2014 #19

No replies to our questions... blm Dec 2014 #43

I know, right? Must be off looking for links.. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #44

heheh... blm Dec 2014 #45

***Egomania Alert !! BrettsJets Dec 2014 #54

this is what told me all I needed to know... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #51

Sketch-Ball Alert*** BrettsJets Dec 2014 #53

The Grand Jury system was originally started in England and they abolished it in 1930 because it jwirr Dec 2014 #21

Witness #10 changed his story a couple times (specifically, about how KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #24

More Here: WillyT Dec 2014 #15

Indictments turbinetree Dec 2014 #16

The police are no longer a police force - they are a military force let loose on the American public jwirr Dec 2014 #22

even a military force is not supposed to randomly murder - this is far worse, it is like a criminal hollysmom Dec 2014 #29

You are correct. I had not thought about that enough before I posted. Far worse. jwirr Dec 2014 #39

Ugh...the guy was a neanderthal BuddhaGirl Dec 2014 #25

This was the witness that Sean Hannity was touting as the absolute PROOF bullwinkle428 Dec 2014 #23

We know he is a bag of hammers but - he touted THIS "witness"? underpants Dec 2014 #27

grand juries can vote to indict again, it is not double jeopardy. hollysmom Dec 2014 #28

The real issue and bottom line is that the prosecutor should never have taken thise wittnesses sammy750 Dec 2014 #30

That pretty much requires that that GJ decision must be overturned and a new Federal sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #31

well, she is an avowed racist, with a questionable heaven05 Dec 2014 #32

Racism is so ugly heaven05 Dec 2014 #33

she was presented as a racist and liar to the grand jury TorchTheWitch Dec 2014 #36

The problem is that her testimony was heard at all mountain grammy Dec 2014 #46

It makes sense if one considers that McCulloch is a racist and a liar Jack Rabbit Dec 2014 #47

She was presented as someone who witnessed the crime. That + her obvious racism should have bettyellen Dec 2014 #61

One 3 of 22 witnesses supported Wilson's account that Brown charged him gmb92 Dec 2014 #40

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #48

All a set up. ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #50

Did you see it happen? Niceguy1 Dec 2014 #52

Ill believe that kid over a murderer. ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #56

and Niceguy1 Dec 2014 #57

he never changed heaven05 Dec 2014 #58

LOL, no. bettyellen Dec 2014 #62

Yeah, no. ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #63