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In reply to the discussion: HRW : CUBA [View all]Violet_Crumble
(35,954 posts)62. Who else is there to reply to when trying to ignore facts being pointed out?
It's the internet equivalent of someone sticking their fingers in their ears and going 'LA LA LA. I CAN'T HEAR YOU!'
I got a chuckle out of this gem in this thread: 'HRW and Amenesty tell the truth.'
I suspect he meant to add: 'unless I disagree with them!' at the end. Because here's some truth from HRW and AI that he won't like...
Amnesty International - Obama should follow UN lead on Cuba embargo
Amnesty International - Israel: The injustice and secrecy surrounding administrative detention.
Israel must release all Palestinians held under long-standing administrative detention laws or charge and try them promptly and fairly, Amnesty International said in a new report.
'Starved of justice: Palestinians detained without trial by Israel documents human rights violations associated with administrative detention a relic of British control of the area that permits detention without charge or trial on indefinitely renewable military orders.
The report also calls on Israel to stop using these measures to suppress the legitimate and peaceful activities of activists in the Occupied Palestinian Territories.
It urges the immediate and unconditional release prisoners of conscience held just for peacefully exercising their rights to freedom of expression and assembly.
'Starved of justice: Palestinians detained without trial by Israel documents human rights violations associated with administrative detention a relic of British control of the area that permits detention without charge or trial on indefinitely renewable military orders.
The report also calls on Israel to stop using these measures to suppress the legitimate and peaceful activities of activists in the Occupied Palestinian Territories.
It urges the immediate and unconditional release prisoners of conscience held just for peacefully exercising their rights to freedom of expression and assembly.
Then there's the other info from HRW about Israel's human rights violations that have been studiously ignored because, y'know, it's apparently totally awesome when Israel does it...
http://www.hrw.org/reports/1994/israel/
Israel's two main interrogation agencies in the occupied territories engage in a systematic pattern of ill-treatment and torture - according to internationally recognized definitions of the terms - when trying to extract from Palestinian security suspects confessions or information about third parties. This pattern has continued in 1994, despite the peace process now underway.
Israel's ill-treatment of Palestinians under interrogation is notable for the enormous number of persons who have experienced it. Well over 100,000 Palestinians have been detained since the start of the intifada in December 1987. Of those arrested, reliable sources indicate that some 4,000 to 6,000 are subjected to interrogation each year. The figures appear to have declined only slightly during the first quarter of 1994.
The overriding strategy of Israel's interrogation agencies in getting uncooperative detainees to talk is to subject them to a coordinated, rigid and increasingly painful regime of physical constraints and psychological pressures over days and very often for three or four weeks, during which time the detainees are, almost without exception, denied visits by their lawyers and families. These measures seriously taint the voluntariness of the confessions that they help to bring about, and therefore, compromise the fundamental fairness of the military courts that try Palestinians in the occupied territories.
The methods used in nearly all interrogations are prolonged sleep deprivation; prolonged sight deprivation using blindfolds or tight-fitting hoods; forced, prolonged maintenance of body positions that grow increasingly painful; and verbal threats and insults.
These methods are almost always combined with some of the following abuses: confinement in tiny, closet-like spaces; exposure to temperature extremes, such as in deliberately overcooled rooms; prolonged toilet and hygiene deprivation; and degrading treatment, such as forcing detainees to eat and use the toilet at the same time. In a large number of cases, detainees are also moderately or severely beaten by their interrogators.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5972756
Israel's two main interrogation agencies in the occupied territories engage in a systematic pattern of ill-treatment and torture - according to internationally recognized definitions of the terms - when trying to extract from Palestinian security suspects confessions or information about third parties. This pattern has continued in 1994, despite the peace process now underway.
Israel's ill-treatment of Palestinians under interrogation is notable for the enormous number of persons who have experienced it. Well over 100,000 Palestinians have been detained since the start of the intifada in December 1987. Of those arrested, reliable sources indicate that some 4,000 to 6,000 are subjected to interrogation each year. The figures appear to have declined only slightly during the first quarter of 1994.
The overriding strategy of Israel's interrogation agencies in getting uncooperative detainees to talk is to subject them to a coordinated, rigid and increasingly painful regime of physical constraints and psychological pressures over days and very often for three or four weeks, during which time the detainees are, almost without exception, denied visits by their lawyers and families. These measures seriously taint the voluntariness of the confessions that they help to bring about, and therefore, compromise the fundamental fairness of the military courts that try Palestinians in the occupied territories.
The methods used in nearly all interrogations are prolonged sleep deprivation; prolonged sight deprivation using blindfolds or tight-fitting hoods; forced, prolonged maintenance of body positions that grow increasingly painful; and verbal threats and insults.
These methods are almost always combined with some of the following abuses: confinement in tiny, closet-like spaces; exposure to temperature extremes, such as in deliberately overcooled rooms; prolonged toilet and hygiene deprivation; and degrading treatment, such as forcing detainees to eat and use the toilet at the same time. In a large number of cases, detainees are also moderately or severely beaten by their interrogators.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5972756
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Not to mention our own HR record. What happens to protesters HERE. See Ferguson and
sabrina 1
Dec 2014
#54
The U.S. government has routinely tortured those it detains. So long as Bush and Cheney walk
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2014
#59
The same is true of China and probably Vietnam but that doesn't stop us from working with them.
craigmatic
Dec 2014
#3
where are your posts demanding we suspend relations with dozens of other countries
CreekDog
Dec 2014
#46
Yeah, if we'd just maintained that embargo against Cuba for one more decade....
Paladin
Dec 2014
#12
Yes, it's really that overdue; that being from 2002 makes it worse
muriel_volestrangler
Dec 2014
#30
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that in all probability. No one gives a shit whether
Guy Whitey Corngood
Dec 2014
#37
Isn't there an OP you could start about some Muslim doing some fucked up shit somewhere? nt
Guy Whitey Corngood
Dec 2014
#39
My point is that seems to be the sole purpose of this poster. He seems to have added commies
Guy Whitey Corngood
Dec 2014
#55
"Life goes on. A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms. Enthusiasms...
Guy Whitey Corngood
Dec 2014
#64
I'll do that when you point me out to people who post about nothing else but that. nt
Guy Whitey Corngood
Dec 2014
#66
Who else is there to reply to when trying to ignore facts being pointed out?
Violet_Crumble
Dec 2014
#62
Are you implying that normalising relations with Cuba is a bad thing?
Donald Ian Rankin
Dec 2014
#40