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18. Right. Because we should do nothing in the face of international spying.

Reply to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 06:20 PM

Dec 2014

Just sit back and let everyone else spy on us.

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Maybe forking over shitloads of cyber intel to China wasn't such a good idea. [View all] ucrdem Dec 2014 OP

Snowden is a morally ambiguous historical figure. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #1

Astroturfed wingnut libertarians with severe ODS ucrdem Dec 2014 #2

I can't see blaming November on Snowden, but I see what you mean. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #3

Shit stirring libertarian.. loves him some ron paul.. Loves him some putin, too.. Cha Dec 2014 #33

Well put AndreaCG Dec 2014 #58

Maybe NSA spying wasn't such a good idea. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #4

Maybe Sony employees would like to keep their private info private. nt ucrdem Dec 2014 #5

Maybe everybody would like to keep their private info private from the NSA. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #6

Maybe the NSA isn't collecting your private info. nt ucrdem Dec 2014 #7

But, it does seem concerned about a lot of peoples. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #8

NSA info collection is regulated. China's info collection isn't. ucrdem Dec 2014 #9

What makes you think that China's collection of info isn't regulated by the Chinese? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #10

China's security agencies aren't regulated by US law. ucrdem Dec 2014 #11

You don't say. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #12

Oddly enough our security agencies aren't regulated by Chinese law. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #14

You have no idea what the NSA is doing. nm rhett o rick Dec 2014 #17

Actually we have a fairly clear idea thanks to compliance legislation signed by guess who: ucrdem Dec 2014 #20

I think you are too easily convinced. I suggest you keep an open mind. nm rhett o rick Dec 2014 #21

Interesting that you side with the huge, powerful NSA/CIA Security State and disparage rhett o rick Dec 2014 #15

There's where you're wrong. ucrdem Dec 2014 #22

"The Obama admin on the other hand has consistently run the govt according to the law, many of them rhett o rick Dec 2014 #26

WaPo, July 24, 2009: "NSA Names Its First Director of Compliance" ucrdem Dec 2014 #27

No, some are more easily convinced their authoritarian leaders are taking very good care of rhett o rick Dec 2014 #28

Right. Because we should do nothing in the face of international spying. pnwmom Dec 2014 #18

Right. We should completely trust the unregulated massive Securtiy State because rhett o rick Dec 2014 #31

How exaggerated treestar Dec 2014 #32

The NSA collects international intelligence. Our constitutional rights don't apply pnwmom Dec 2014 #37

Even Gen Clapper told us otherwise. But if that's the rationalization you need to rhett o rick Dec 2014 #49

They shouldn't do any spying? treestar Dec 2014 #35

I've seen a lot of stupid posts on DU today. nt. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #13

If you've noticed they never discuss issues but post Obama adulation OP's and hate Snowden and anyon rhett o rick Dec 2014 #16

Maybe letting LoZocolo back in this place wasn't such a great idea. QC Dec 2014 #19

What are you trying to say? LoZocolo? Really? What's he have to do with this? Cha Dec 2014 #24

I think he's looking for a lost friend. nt ucrdem Dec 2014 #30

Lost in Locozolo land.. You make a post talking about eddie and his dumping data to China and he Cha Dec 2014 #36

What brought this on, ucr? Cha Dec 2014 #23

The Sony hack ucrdem Dec 2014 #25

Oh yeah, I remember that.. I didn't know that China was supposedly involved in the hacking of Sony! Cha Dec 2014 #29

Just a guess but yeah, cyberwarfare is the name of the game these days. ucrdem Dec 2014 #38

I see all kinds of evidence of FB, Amazon, DKos, etc being aware of my online activities.. Cha Dec 2014 #39

They aren't. Your pal is just making shit up. But he said "snowden" so toe the line. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #40

"toe the line".. lol.. you poor thing. There is no fucking line. Cha Dec 2014 #41

Here's a line for that one: ucrdem Dec 2014 #43

You're Welcome. Cha Dec 2014 #45

He's right-- this is one of the downright stupidest attacks I've seen yet. Marr Dec 2014 #52

Totally off topic, but riqster Dec 2014 #53

No, I don't think it's totally OT.. it's right on topic! mahalo riqster! Cha Dec 2014 #54

Reuters, Friday: "U.S. authorities have found a possible Chinese link to the cyberattack" ucrdem Dec 2014 #42

Mahalo.. info that some don't want to know about. Cha Dec 2014 #46

Snowden is Paul Revere with a thumbdrive full of Sony passwords ucrdem Dec 2014 #47

You are smokin' the funny stuff. Gen Clapper and his multi-billion dollar spy rhett o rick Dec 2014 #50

Also thanks to the 2009-10 Intel Act, Clapper's appointment was confirmed by the senate. ucrdem Dec 2014 #57

You are good at throwing out data and hoping some sticks to the wall. Not sure what your point is. rhett o rick Dec 2014 #64

Par for the course! freshwest Dec 2014 #55

Yep. 18 months and they still haven't gotten wise. ucrdem Dec 2014 #56

Thanks, ucrdem! freshwest Dec 2014 #65

That is your evidence? Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #59

Yes, and now it's your turn. ucrdem Dec 2014 #61

your evidence of snowden enabling an alleged chinese hack is? Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #63

. Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #34

It's Snowden's fault! I knew it! neverforget Dec 2014 #44

Our country only thinks 4 years in advance. nilesobek Dec 2014 #48

Because China didn't have hackers before. Marr Dec 2014 #51

The CT/CS Forum is that way... Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #60

No need to fork it over, it's not really secret. bemildred Dec 2014 #62

Post hoc ergo prompter hoc. LanternWaste Dec 2014 #66

I'll show you a prompter buddy ucrdem Dec 2014 #67