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Fred Sanders

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25. Per capita is not the same as total, and accidental deaths not the same as criminal acts. Just ask

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:09 PM

Dec 2014

the families of the dead of gun violence if it would be the same thing.

Ask the parents of Sandy ?Hook if it is the same thing to lose a child by accident or at the end of the barrel of an assault rifle bought at Walmart.

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We shouldn't talk about Ferguson without talking about guns | Vox [View all] Fred Sanders Dec 2014 OP

I would agree to a few gun control laws, GGJohn Dec 2014 #1

Your position is a small minority in the progressive movement. Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #2

I think you nor I truly know what every progressives position is, GGJohn Dec 2014 #4

Yes, every thing is a "threat" in some folk's world, the cult of victimization is attractive to some Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #6

I'm in no way claiming to be a victim, GGJohn Dec 2014 #8

What's really sad is restricting gun ownership is classically a right-wing viewpoint NutmegYankee Dec 2014 #12

Yes, you're quite correct. GGJohn Dec 2014 #13

I often call that the Reagan paradox. He did so much damage to the country - NutmegYankee Dec 2014 #15

Speaking of which... derby378 Dec 2014 #16

I disagree. nt Mojorabbit Dec 2014 #17

So what you are saying is you support militarized police? NutmegYankee Dec 2014 #3

So, you say you did not read the article and have totally missed the point? Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #5

The argument in the article is crap. NutmegYankee Dec 2014 #7

A sad attempt to not admit you did not read the article and now refuse to do so, more like it. Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #10

I read it. It's a retread. NutmegYankee Dec 2014 #11

Should be some members of the Guns are Wonderful Culture... 99Forever Dec 2014 #9

Young black men are paying the price of America's drug culture hack89 Dec 2014 #14

I thought the young man in Ferguson was unarmed. ileus Dec 2014 #18

The flaw in your logic is that we HAVE gun control. aikoaiko Dec 2014 #19

I don't care for this rhetoric because Mike Brown was unarmed, had no gun and the cop had a gun Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #20

It seems to me... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #21

What? Please translate from gunner-talk to English, please. I hate the police. I love the police, Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #24

guns are rude, and defending yourself isn't progressive. ileus Dec 2014 #29

Implement? Like a combine? You outdo yourself with your machinations in defence of killer weapons. Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #34

There's no pleasing you is there.... ileus Dec 2014 #35

Guns are "rude"? Stop it, you are killing me, your silliness is more dangerous than any "implement". Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #36

most all those fall under misuse. ileus Dec 2014 #37

Police are not even in the top 10 jobs with the most fatalities at work, roofers, garbage collectors Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #22

Per capita is not the same as total, and accidental deaths not the same as criminal acts. Just ask Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #25

It is the same thing, dead is dead, GGJohn Dec 2014 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #27

aka, "I want to hitch my hobby horse to your popular subject!" X_Digger Dec 2014 #23

I made s roughly similar comment earlier tblue Dec 2014 #28

Thank you for seeing the point the gun folks are purposely missing. Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #30

I can assure you that where I live the Police and Sheriff aren't afraid of civilian firearm GGJohn Dec 2014 #31

We should talk about schools. McCamy Taylor Dec 2014 #32

Maybe if we had elected politicians with any courage and convictions we would get them to say that Township75 Dec 2014 #33