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68. Nixon was many rotten things, but I assure you

Tue Dec 23, 2014, 05:44 PM

Dec 2014

a Dominionist he was not He wasn't even much of a Quaker, much less a freaking Dominionist. People want to compare and contrast Nixon to today's Repukes and it doesn't hold up. Nixon was a sleazy ward-heeler type who managed to make it to the presidency. He had the ethics of a hyena and the personal style of a poison toad, it is true, but his demons were all personal. He wanted to take down the "Eastern Establishment" types he had always been jealous of and whom he perceived as keeping him down because he was from a poor California background and not a Harvard or Yale type.

Nixon never spent two seconds thinking about how to undo the New Deal. He learned from Ike what a stupid idea that would be and took it to heart - remember, Ike expanded Social Security - and was not a stupid man; Nixon was never driven by ideology, only by opportunism.

Believe me, I know my Nixon and have read dozens of books about him and his presidecy.

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