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In reply to the discussion: "Head shots, head shots." [View all]Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)84. "You equated the Revolutionary War to a theoretical rebellion today."
I did no such thing. I cited 3 historical examples of the people employing their RKBA to protect themselves from the abuse of civil authority: African Americans protecting themselves against the Klan, labor organizers protecting themselves against armed strike breakers and the battle of Athens, TN.
You equated a foreign occupation with a domestic rebellion.
Yes, for the purpose of noting the US is geographically far more expansive and diverse than the geography of Iraq, it is twelve times more populated and there would be no guarantee the military would be as unified as in Iraq (assuming any would heed orders to suppress a significantly popular uprising. I've learned US soldiers don't really consider themselves different from the people they serve).
I pointed out the fallacy of comparing the two. Which, by the way, is also true of the Revolution
You pointed out the differences in the example YOU provided for YOUR argument, not mine. Again, I made no mention of the Revolutionary War, you did. I cited my 3 domestic examples plus Iraq.
Now you're talking about something that seems to have come out of nowhere. I say wait til next century. Chicago Cubs are going to kick ass then!
No. I'm addressing the penchant for those who reject the RKBA to claim modern war is too difficult so keeping the RKBA on the pretense of fending-off an illegitimate government is futile. The only conclusion that can be drawn from such statements is: We might as well dispense with the RKBA and pray for merciful masters.
If memory serves from past conversations you do not affirm the right of the people to own guns. Now, here you are arguing about the futility of resistance to an illegitimate government. Perhaps you are not attempting to bridge those arguments and these positions are merely accidental and coincidental to your mind. Or perhaps not and you are simply reluctant to admit it because the implications for such thoughts speaks to a potentially timid and servile nature.
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Two words- "Southern Strategy". Republicans have intentionally stoked racist hatred for decades.
KittyWampus
Dec 2014
#2
Republicans back then appeared to be moderate, only because today's GOP is batshit crazy! n/t
ColesCountyDem
Dec 2014
#5
Yes, it is a comparative description. Back then no one was saying they were "moderate", but...
George II
Dec 2014
#14
This is not an apologia for Tricky Dick's admin but, IIRC, Nixon, Haldemann and
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2014
#24
Richard Nixon jerked and twitched his way across our bruised psyche like a grotesque marionette.
NBachers
Dec 2014
#41
Thankfully, no one of importance wants to deprive Americans of their fundamental RKBA so
Nuclear Unicorn
Dec 2014
#4
I didn't say anything against "meaningful gun control" (though my definition my differ from yours)
Nuclear Unicorn
Dec 2014
#13
"The Revolutionary War was just a dream?" In response to "fantasy of a RW style insurrection".
ieoeja
Dec 2014
#50
I'm still at a loss to understand how the proper response to a Saddam-esque
Nuclear Unicorn
Dec 2014
#56
Should we then accept whatever Fate or the designs of the greedy and cruel people provides us?
Nuclear Unicorn
Dec 2014
#82
I understood his use of the term "localized" to mean "geographically confined."
Nuclear Unicorn
Dec 2014
#83
You're claiming your failure to see such statements is the end-all be-all of reality.
Nuclear Unicorn
Dec 2014
#65
"if they would have their way we'd be back to the days of Sheriff Andy and Deputy Barney"
Hassin Bin Sober
Dec 2014
#12
That is so openly an incitement to violence that it staggers the mind that
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2014
#29
There's a damned good reason I should not be dispensing legal advice and you
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2014
#33
Oh it is just my opinion, and I certainly am no SC justice so my opinion does not
kelly1mm
Dec 2014
#34
Too bad that this scumbag's 20 years sentence was reduced to 8 by President Carter.
BeanMusical
Dec 2014
#35