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BumRushDaShow

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162. "Being a particular race is part of an identity and description"

Mon Apr 23, 2012, 01:31 PM

Apr 2012

The problem is that someone else has defined the "identity and description" of others and in most cases, the definer was not the definee. And that is where the breakdown occurred, and where the reality ends, and the stereotypes begin.

I.e., people have to spend decades trying to recover who they really are and not what someone else said they are. And worse, when people try to redefine themselves, it immediately throws the definers out of their comfort zones. At this point, the definers then go through all kinds of crazy shit to "right" their now-turned-upside-down-world, including attacking the individual for rejecting the definer's purported wisdom of all things in the world. We see that with the GOP and their dealing with the current President, and we see it right here in this thread.

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I stalked/followed a black kid! [View all] karnac Apr 2012 OP

I don't believe your tale. n/t Jumping John Apr 2012 #1

Unfortunately true karnac Apr 2012 #3

Get an alarm system on your windows that alert the police if someone tries to open them. FarLeftFist Apr 2012 #37

Actually, my tires did get slashed before karnac Apr 2012 #55

Why was the Black Panamanian friend you mentioned not up in the tree? obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #136

Rather than follow him, the second time you saw him, rustydog Apr 2012 #50

ok, i have some questions/comments: CreekDog Apr 2012 #109

I wonder why the picture of your thumb scared the kid from committing a burglary Lasher Apr 2012 #2

tires must have been slashed at night karnac Apr 2012 #9

My parents lost all their RV tires, during a tiff with the NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR. WingDinger Apr 2012 #18

A young man in my neighborhood just got put in jail for stealing gasoline from his neighbor's car. Lasher Apr 2012 #70

Somebody tried to get in your window and you didn't call the cops? LeftyMom Apr 2012 #4

I wear a hoodie myself. karnac Apr 2012 #12

actually walking around looking in windows is probable cause for a police stop and question. Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #185

Exactly. This story is more racist horse shit. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2012 #103

You should have shown him your Frederick Douglass avatar. nt NoGOPZone Apr 2012 #5

LOLOL!!! CatWoman Apr 2012 #8

*snork* cyberswede Apr 2012 #42

hahahahahaha obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #52

Lol! whatchamacallit Apr 2012 #141

LOL. myrna minx Apr 2012 #147

How did you know he was "black"? BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #6

What? 'Dark complected'? trof Apr 2012 #11

Is this one "black"? BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #16

what "I" do know is CatWoman Apr 2012 #21

LOL! BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #28

He's also a Glenn Beck fan JonLP24 Apr 2012 #135

in my travels I've met plenty of hot men CatWoman Apr 2012 #137

This would make a great sig line. Pool Hall Ace Apr 2012 #164

He is hot, but I have to say Pool Hall Ace Apr 2012 #163

the mods already think wer'e a bunch of horny degernates CatWoman Apr 2012 #167

Sigh. Another clique I wasn't asked to join. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2012 #181

the first one is about as black karnac Apr 2012 #29

So then he may have been "hispanic"? BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #34

Could have been a Black Panamanian karnac Apr 2012 #36

Or perhaps an asian? BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #38

"I'm Dreaming of a White Isthmus..." blue neen Apr 2012 #48

... TBF Apr 2012 #51

Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #74

So, the Black Panamanian you know is a great tree climber? obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #77

Yup karnac Apr 2012 #81

dude, you just turned your BS stereotype up to 11 CreekDog Apr 2012 #104

Why does this statement scream offensive to me?! n/t vaberella Apr 2012 #124

Because it is obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #132

That's exactly what crossed my mind. Is this poster tombstoned yet?n/t vaberella Apr 2012 #154

WTF??!! "blacker than any African American I ever saw. Great tree climber"??? WHAT IS THAT Ecumenist Apr 2012 #171

But .... polly7 Apr 2012 #172

EXACTLY, that's fucked up and so racist that it could be published in a klukker newspaper Ecumenist Apr 2012 #173

They are trying to call him a black monkey obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #174

Tell me about it. I did the same thing. Cheeky cretin thnks it's okay to say things Ecumenist Apr 2012 #175

You can be either black or hispanic, not both? 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #58

That's what I'm trying to get at BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #67

I guess I don't see why also being hispanic would make it inappropriate to describe him as black 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #142

"If you were describing such a person to the police..." BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #145

Right, sure ok 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #149

Your response allows me to rest my case. BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #151

Not really 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #152

Sorry kid BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #155

I was giving you an out by allowing you to simply be a college freshman 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #156

You'll figure it out one day. BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #158

My great great grandma was black and nicaraguan karnac Apr 2012 #68

You're digging the hole deeper and deeper. BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #73

you mean there WAS karnac Apr 2012 #78

The rule is still in effect BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #92

This entire thread is snark right?! Because man...you're full of shit. n/t vaberella Apr 2012 #125

I don't know who those men are, but they definitely look at least part black. Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #84

This is the problem, isn't it? BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #99

Yes, it's totally a visual cue, for the purpose of identification. Like color of t-shirt, kind of Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #108

You just dug yourself into that same hole! BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #112

Depends on the light in which I saw these people. Give it a break! Giving race info is NECESSARY. Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #114

And you just kept on digging. BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #115

+1 obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #133

A little off topic, but what a lovely smile that woman has whatchamacallit Apr 2012 #143

Yet sadly BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #146

Colonialism lives whatchamacallit Apr 2012 #148

Yup. BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #153

It's just a general description by a witness. No need to get into profiling. Are witnesses now Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #110

That's why there are 'Neighborhood Watch' organizations.. trof Apr 2012 #7

At the time I thought 911 was overkill. karnac Apr 2012 #14

no, not all of them do TorchTheWitch Apr 2012 #59

big deal CatWoman Apr 2012 #10

'specially the good lookin' ones, yeah? alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #15

damn straight CatWoman Apr 2012 #17

Hate to see you leave, but I love to watch you go... alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #19

Stop it.. HipChick Apr 2012 #23

bwahahahahaha CatWoman Apr 2012 #24

Since said event is already in the past, why do you need DU's "collective wisdom"? marmar Apr 2012 #13

the point is trying to make zimmerman's actions seem reasonable noiretextatique Apr 2012 #184

I can't begin to express how fucked up your post is. Why the need to post on DU? For approval? Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2012 #20

And the jury says... Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #57

"And the ladies posting in that thread need to take a cold shower. " Jamastiene Apr 2012 #62

They DO! karnac Apr 2012 #71

oh that has to be a duzy zeemike Apr 2012 #83

And the ladies posting in that thread need to take a cold shower. CatWoman Apr 2012 #75

Thank you! I wasn't calling the OP racist. I suggested that he/she deal with internalized Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2012 #122

How is his post racist? Are you maybe angry at the reality of what the poster said, and that Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #86

Interesting post if you enjoy ecstatic Apr 2012 #97

Whenever one assumes or implies ANYTHING, bringing race or color in it, then yes it's racist. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2012 #123

Similar things have happened to me. I hear something, go outside.... Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #140

No! He named the title of the OP "I stalked a black kid!" Yes it is racist. Why start this thread Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2012 #157

"Being a particular race is part of an identity and description" BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #162

It's a way to describe someone to cops, so they know who to look for. Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #183

I noticed your bullshit responses throughout this thread so I'm putting you on IGNORE Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2012 #159

Liberal_Stalwart, I've noticed that abou t Honeycombe too. It's a pattern with them. It's Ecumenist Apr 2012 #177

If you were pretty sure it was him trying to get into your window I don't see a problem Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #22

I didn't see him do anything illegal, period. karnac Apr 2012 #33

I think it was just your protective instincts kicking in Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #43

I don't believe your story either. Kind of makes me feel ill. Maraya1969 Apr 2012 #25

And....... Maraya1969 Apr 2012 #26

The entire thread is making me ill. nt TBF Apr 2012 #49

He doesn't believe his own story, either! That's why he had to recommend his own thread! Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2012 #168

You erred right in the beginning not calling the cops zeemike Apr 2012 #27

LOL CatWoman Apr 2012 #30

They were all in the garage for a meeting of the Constitution Club with Snake Alchemist alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #32

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! CatWoman Apr 2012 #35

I think the dark kid might have actually been Snake Alchemist doing an experiment on racism. likesmountains 52 Apr 2012 #39

Well, he did excuse himself to go to the bathroom right before the Peeping Tom incident alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #40

oh no you didn't obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #79

Always got to be the Black one...sigh. n/t vaberella Apr 2012 #127

OH SHIT... dionysus Apr 2012 #105

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2012 #113

You didn't know? Even with the card held up to your forehead? CreekDog Apr 2012 #31

LOL! cyberswede Apr 2012 #44

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA CatWoman Apr 2012 #45

Nice post, Kreskin... cyberswede Apr 2012 #46

The REAL Karnac would have seen this coming... -..__... Apr 2012 #96

I expected it. karnac Apr 2012 #101

Even hiding /seeking sanctuary in a Cathedral... -..__... Apr 2012 #106

That's Frank and all of his idiot drooling followers coming out of the cave to post in this thread. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #120

Based on what you put down... AmazingSchnitzel Apr 2012 #41

Hey, I have a bridge to sell. You seem perfect for this deal. n/t HangOnKids Apr 2012 #150

I have no way to know if it's real or not... AmazingSchnitzel Apr 2012 #179

Are you trying to compare this fake story in some way to the Trayvon situation? Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #47

I don't know how different one way or the other. karnac Apr 2012 #66

"My very REAL incident does relate to the Travon/Zimmerman tale, but only to a point." polly7 Apr 2012 #72

How does your tale relate to the Trayvon incident? Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #80

Looks like there may be a sequel coming out to answer all these. nt. polly7 Apr 2012 #186

So ProSense Apr 2012 #98

and the OP ended up posting later to say that his tires had been slashed before CreekDog Apr 2012 #165

What a very interesting and illuminating story obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #53

Definitely illuminating. nt TBF Apr 2012 #56

That's nothing CatWoman Apr 2012 #54

OMG I got a flashback to 30 years ago BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #60

is this your first Nanowrimo? CreekDog Apr 2012 #61

To think that DU has an international novelist in its midst! blue neen Apr 2012 #116

You must have spent all day coming up with this one. Jamastiene Apr 2012 #63

*snicker* CatWoman Apr 2012 #76

Cool story, bro Electric Monk Apr 2012 #64

okay, I'm stealing that pic. U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #107

Would you have behaved differently if you had went out and a white kid was looking into windows? saras Apr 2012 #65

What could be wrong with questioning anyone you saw peeping in windows? polly7 Apr 2012 #69

Bad idea to question a stranger and accuse him of attempted burglary, esp if he DID try to break in. Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #88

I'd have done it. polly7 Apr 2012 #90

I think it IS against the law to be peeping Tom, even if he wasn't breaking in. Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #82

You're an idiot. flvegan Apr 2012 #85

bwahahahaha CatWoman Apr 2012 #89

Well, the OP ProSense Apr 2012 #93

Ha! Well if the OP didn't rec his own foolishness, who will???? Number23 Apr 2012 #111

I inherited a mixed A-Schwarzenegger Apr 2012 #87

I lol'd at this. flvegan Apr 2012 #91

THAT story was far more believable than this load of bovine excrement. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #131

Interesting post. Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #94

To answer your question: stupid ecstatic Apr 2012 #95

'Great chance?' RZM Apr 2012 #102

Tell that to Kenneth Chamberlain, Sr or ecstatic Apr 2012 #117

That's like saying RZM Apr 2012 #118

I don't believe your story n/t Marrah_G Apr 2012 #100

Good thing you didn't have a gun ... JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2012 #119

Gerlado, is that you? sarcasmo Apr 2012 #121

Bogus. Dogtown Apr 2012 #126

oh for the love of reason. You didn't want to waste your time calling the cops cali Apr 2012 #128

Alternate Theory: His father thought you were a pedophile. JoePhilly Apr 2012 #129

BRILLIANT AS ALWAYS!!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2012 #161

Awe thanks ... I had fun writing that and hoped others would enjoy it. JoePhilly Apr 2012 #166

That was spot on! BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #169

Thanks, glad you liked it. JoePhilly Apr 2012 #170

I don't believe it. Iggo Apr 2012 #130

And who would anyway? Lex Apr 2012 #139

I would have called the cops, and stayed on it until they showed up slackmaster Apr 2012 #134

Cool story, bro. Lex Apr 2012 #138

Strange... whatchamacallit Apr 2012 #144

Calling the police was most certainly not out of the question. LanternWaste Apr 2012 #160

on conservative web sites, they woukd call this story a "bouncy" scheming daemons Apr 2012 #176

How do you know the person wasn't having diabetic ketoacidosis? NNN0LHI Apr 2012 #178

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2012 #180

karnac has left the building. HangOnKids Apr 2012 #188

Good to hear NoGOPZone Apr 2012 #189

This story is missing a scene where you walk away slowly as a car explodes behind you. Evoman Apr 2012 #182

No good deed libodem Apr 2012 #187