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WillTwain

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23. I half-way agree with you

Wed Dec 24, 2014, 01:05 PM

Dec 2014

Pelosicare is accurate as she really worked her tail off to get that passed. But much of the argument to protect the president assumes he has no power. Why did our founding fathers even set up a presidency, if he is useless. FDR, LBJ, Reagan and Bush all faced opposition but muscled through difficult legislation. Bush had a 50-50 senate but rammed through huge tax cuts for the rich. He got stuff done with a 49-50 senate. It seems your argument says who needs a president, he is just a secretary of sorts.

My point that should not be overlooked is the minimum wage increased 22 times and always with dems in office. This has been a priority for dems since the Great Depression. Very difficult to believe that the pres could not marshall the votes necessary to pass this during the first two years.

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Only Three Presidents Have Not Raised The Federal Minimum Wage [View all] WillTwain Dec 2014 OP

Oh but President Romney would have? Capt. Obvious Dec 2014 #1

Absolutely not WillTwain Dec 2014 #2

Go easy on him Cap.. He's new. LOL... SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #13

I got drilled yesterday WillTwain Dec 2014 #15

The good news is you are in a club with some great people... SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #20

Ditto head, sorry drop the head, just ditto WillTwain Dec 2014 #33

Sure you did ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #65

Why do you say that I am lying. You have no idea of my support for the POTUS. WillTwain Dec 2014 #89

No, you understood me correctly ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #96

and you still have your ass... nt hopemountain Dec 2014 #134

So does he WillTwain Dec 2014 #136

We'll never know. 840high Dec 2014 #147

It's overdue. $7.25 today bought $2.50 in 1980, when minimum was 3.10. NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #3

He will be the first Dem in history WillTwain Dec 2014 #4

He didn't appoint a Congress against minimum wage... Ykcutnek Dec 2014 #7

It would seem that a persuasive leader WillTwain Dec 2014 #9

He's not a dictator. When will you anti-Obamanites get that through your heads?? BlueCaliDem Dec 2014 #132

Except he got 60 votes for the ACA didn't he, why not the Min Wage? WillTwain Dec 2014 #135

Ask the Republicans why. But you won't do that, will you? BlueCaliDem Dec 2014 #144

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #152

Great Statistics WillTwain Dec 2014 #12

It was near the top of his list, and it passed the House twice Recursion Dec 2014 #25

Obama had not even declared his candidacy for office when that was passed WillTwain Dec 2014 #30

That's the problem LWolf Dec 2014 #67

Beautifully worded WillTwain Dec 2014 #99

Yes. NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #141

Presidents don't raise the minimum wage. Ykcutnek Dec 2014 #5

Well, there's that. Bobbie Jo Dec 2014 #54

Facts don't matter to the perpetually outraged...nt SidDithers Dec 2014 #59

He's new, Sid. He'll catch on soon enough Number23 Dec 2014 #126

So the president did nothing to help healthcare pass? joeglow3 Dec 2014 #127

Reagan brought an end to the maximum wage olddots Dec 2014 #6

The history speaks for itself WillTwain Dec 2014 #8

I'm not familiar with Reagan ending the "maximum wage" hughee99 Dec 2014 #19

Dramatically cutting tax rates for the highest bracket. I assume that's what the poster meant. n/t nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #137

Presidents don't raise the minimum wage. Congress does. NYC Liberal Dec 2014 #10

Presidents do influence congress WillTwain Dec 2014 #11

59 is Not Enough AndyTiedye Dec 2014 #56

Oh, come on. LWolf Dec 2014 #68

There are 535+ votes a President has to deal with. LiberalFighter Dec 2014 #78

Then we may as well give up. We will never have 60 "progressive" senators. WillTwain Dec 2014 #79

That appears to be your attitude. LiberalFighter Dec 2014 #85

i just do not see 65 "progressive" senators in our future any time soon. WillTwain Dec 2014 #93

There will never be more than 45 progressives Reter Dec 2014 #143

There most certainly will never be 60 progressive Senators Reter Dec 2014 #142

No, zero presidents have raised the minimum wage. jeff47 Dec 2014 #14

Please read the whole thread WillTwain Dec 2014 #16

No, you haven't. jeff47 Dec 2014 #17

"Stop pretending the president is a neo-dictator." What are you talking about? WillTwain Dec 2014 #40

You are arguing that the president gets a minimum wage increase whenever they want. jeff47 Dec 2014 #114

I have no idea what you are talking about. WillTwain Dec 2014 #117

That's because you're too busy with the hatred to read. jeff47 Dec 2014 #119

We had the presidency and large majorities in both houses joeglow3 Dec 2014 #129

It's amazing how many people can't count to 60. jeff47 Dec 2014 #131

They passed the ACA with 60 votes. WillTwain Dec 2014 #140

And do you know what they did to do so? jeff47 Dec 2014 #156

Did any even try? Why has it never been indexed when raises were passed? joeglow3 Dec 2014 #149

Very true Capt. Obvious Dec 2014 #18

I half-way agree with you WillTwain Dec 2014 #23

The President is powerless Capt. Obvious Dec 2014 #27

I get it sort of like a quarterback WillTwain Dec 2014 #35

Only if that quarterback is Peyton Manning Capt. Obvious Dec 2014 #38

On DU the opposite is true. JoePhilly Dec 2014 #39

Except when you're the one posting Capt. Obvious Dec 2014 #46

Then he gets credit for things he's actually done. JoePhilly Dec 2014 #60

imho Baucuscare is more appropriate Enrique Dec 2014 #32

Unfortunately he picked the more republican plan WillTwain Dec 2014 #42

Congress is full of Republican assholes, so of course it's Obama's fault. baldguy Dec 2014 #21

Please read the whole thread WillTwain Dec 2014 #26

Not this crap again: "large majorities for two years" NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #31

Even in its entirety it's still typical defeatist pseudo-liberal anti-Democrat crap. baldguy Dec 2014 #34

That was Bush/Cheney. Not sure where you get this stuff. WillTwain Dec 2014 #43

The same place you're getting the excuse to tarnish Obama with the GOPs shortcomings. baldguy Dec 2014 #63

In what reality did he have Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2014 #44

If you check the historical record, 59 is way above the average. WillTwain Dec 2014 #51

One of those was Ted Kennedy. Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2014 #58

Still 56 is a strong number but he did not pass minimum wage WillTwain Dec 2014 #70

It wasn't presented to him. Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2014 #120

NAWP. HughBeaumont Dec 2014 #69

I never called it a supermajority so this is off topic. WillTwain Dec 2014 #71

No one's saying it shouldn't have. But be mad at Republicans for what they refuse to do . . . . HughBeaumont Dec 2014 #75

I completely agree with you but to say Obama has nothing to do with this is disingenuous. WillTwain Dec 2014 #81

No. What's disingenuous is the OP. n/t JTFrog Dec 2014 #139

The last minimum wage increase was in July 2009. Recursion Dec 2014 #22

So... even Bush signed legislation to pass the minimum wage WillTwain Dec 2014 #24

Moving goalposts is fun, I agree Recursion Dec 2014 #28

no, the obvious goalpost is which president signed the increase Enrique Dec 2014 #37

The voice of reason has spoken WillTwain Dec 2014 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author Number23 Dec 2014 #128

If only it was that easy. JaneyVee Dec 2014 #29

You should file a lawsuit against Obama tridim Dec 2014 #36

Obama has not been perfect, can we all agree with that WillTwain Dec 2014 #47

Why do you talk about our President in the past tense? tridim Dec 2014 #48

Don't worry Capt. Obvious Dec 2014 #49

Great Question WillTwain Dec 2014 #50

LOL tridim Dec 2014 #52

Thanks for the "love" WillTwain Dec 2014 #55

he just can't wait ..... obnoxiousdrunk Dec 2014 #53

Bull. No one has said he's "perfect" the Table is still there and there's so much that has gotten Cha Dec 2014 #150

This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Dec 2014 #41

Better believe it!!...nt SidDithers Dec 2014 #57

Nixon was not impeached Sopkoviak Dec 2014 #61

Sorry WillTwain Dec 2014 #72

Shouldn't you OP title read ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #62

Yep, but in a previous OP, OP blamed Obama for tuition increases at state colleges stevenleser Dec 2014 #73

This is a flat out lie. I said he should have done something to reduce tuition. Keep it real. WillTwain Dec 2014 #77

LMAO, thanks for confirming what I said. nt stevenleser Dec 2014 #103

Or, mishandling the Cuban Missile Crisis. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #88

Where are you coming from? WillTwain Dec 2014 #95

Tucson, AZ. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #98

ROFLMAO stevenleser Dec 2014 #105

That Damn Obama, he did that too? stevenleser Dec 2014 #104

Thanks, Obama... SidDithers Dec 2014 #107

I appreciate your loyalty to President Obama. Presidents champion important legislation. WillTwain Dec 2014 #74

It's not "loyalty" to President Obama; but rather, ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #91

He has been described by democrats in office as a president that will sign but not fight for a bill. WillTwain Dec 2014 #97

Yeah. Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #100

It's discouraging to talk to people who must have slept through 8th grade Civics. n/t freshwest Apr 2015 #157

No ... It's not a matter of having slept through 8th Grade Civics ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #158

K&R for Sid bahrbearian Dec 2014 #64

OT: Are you the same WillTwain who posts at kos? n/t Cerridwen Dec 2014 #66

It is... SidDithers Dec 2014 #92

Thanks for the early Christmas present Sid. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #106

All the best to you, she... SidDithers Dec 2014 #108

The best to you and yours~ sheshe2 Dec 2014 #110

Reading his collection of words you'd think Obama slept with his partner and killed his dog. great white snark Dec 2014 #111

You too. All the best... SidDithers Dec 2014 #112

You better believe it!!! zappaman Dec 2014 #76

Actually, Obama did raise the federal minimum wage. LiberalFighter Dec 2014 #80

Tell that to the millions of people working for $7.25 - many that are living on the streets. WillTwain Dec 2014 #82

It appears that you want to be negative about everything. LiberalFighter Dec 2014 #87

if you do not think what i am doing now in the face of furious liberals is doing something WillTwain Dec 2014 #94

Inconvenient facts like this don't matter to the perpetually outraged...nt SidDithers Dec 2014 #86

Fuck the minimum wage. We need a living wage. Initech Dec 2014 #83

Great point WillTwain Dec 2014 #90

DU rec... SidDithers Dec 2014 #84

Hey Sid, you missed his carney nonsense from last night... giftedgirl77 Dec 2014 #102

I did miss that one... SidDithers Dec 2014 #109

Nixon was not impeached. Ineeda Dec 2014 #101

Posting on DU has been a great education. WillTwain Dec 2014 #113

Blind hatred is as bad as blind faith. jeff47 Dec 2014 #115

I have no idea what you are talking about. WillTwain Dec 2014 #116

So....never took a basic civics class? jeff47 Dec 2014 #118

I taught civics classes WillTwain Dec 2014 #121

So you've paid zero attention to how insane the teabaggers are. jeff47 Dec 2014 #122

Once again WillTwain Dec 2014 #123

And once again you fail to back up your claim. jeff47 Dec 2014 #124

I agree that his opposition was strong WillTwain Dec 2014 #125

So....you claim Clinton was thrown out of office? jeff47 Dec 2014 #130

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #133

The ACA passed with 60 votes WillTwain Dec 2014 #138

4-3. A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2014 #145

"O'Bummer".. that's some rw shite.. and you think you're hot shit calling him that on DU? Cha Dec 2014 #146

I thought it was illegal aspirant Dec 2014 #153

Come on Obama raise it to 21.00 an hour!!! gopiscrap Dec 2014 #148

It's Obama's fault congress won't do anything? n/t doc03 Dec 2014 #151

Congress raises the minimum wage and with this anti-Americans congress do not count on any raise. Sunlei Dec 2014 #154

I won't completely absolve the president. Orsino Dec 2014 #155