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gladium et scutum

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115. That is all well and good

Wed Dec 24, 2014, 03:31 PM

Dec 2014

But it does not answer the question posed. Would you fail a student that was doing satisfactory work in class and lab because they were creationists. Would fire who is satisfactory in their job performance because they view creation different than you.

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Arizona Professor Is Being MOBBED By Christian Conservatives For DARING TO SHOW THIS SLIDE In Class [View all] Segami Dec 2014 OP

"I try to teach my students sound skepticism and critical thinking" arcane1 Dec 2014 #1

More power to him! And a pox on all Creationists! CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2014 #2

^This^ GoneOffShore Dec 2014 #3

believers insist god is everywhere, but they can't see god on the left side of that slide. unblock Dec 2014 #4

To be fair, I would guess that about half of us believers *do* accept evolution. dawg Dec 2014 #8

I grew up in the Catholic catechism arena during the 1950's, and we were taught that truedelphi Dec 2014 #10

I don't believe God is as "gendered" as most religions depict. dawg Dec 2014 #14

All encompassing everything doesn't have a gender. WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2014 #23

yes, i should have been more careful. unblock Dec 2014 #17

I'd say it's more than half Warpy Dec 2014 #31

Data show otherwise whatthehey Dec 2014 #84

I suppose I'm spoiled Warpy Dec 2014 #105

46% young earthers is a frightening rate. There is no reason to believe such a thing at all TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #117

I have no problem sarisataka Dec 2014 #45

I never did either yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #60

Pope Pius XII melm00se Dec 2014 #83

It certainly is more impressive to anyone who thinks about it eridani Dec 2014 #77

This is true. Only to the most literalist fundie are they mutually exclusive. nt treestar Dec 2014 #52

To be fair hootinholler Dec 2014 #67

Hopefully, he will have support enlightenment Dec 2014 #5

This is a prime example of why we need tenure AwakeAtLast Dec 2014 #81

"It didn't contribute to the lecture except to add spite.." SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #6

& humor. I think kids learn better when humor is used to teach. eShirl Dec 2014 #55

I think it added humor. The spite came from the creationists. (n/t) Iggo Dec 2014 #57

I think it added truth - TBF Dec 2014 #78

Creationist bullshitters create a stink. Hilariously pathetic! nc4bo Dec 2014 #7

Silly, aren't they? hifiguy Dec 2014 #24

Mind you, nothing about the slide being wrong ... hadrons Dec 2014 #9

Actually, the illustration suggests human evolution is orthogenic which is mostly wrong. HereSince1628 Dec 2014 #25

Either you're engaging in 11th-dimensional wit or I think you meant to write 'descent' (and KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #33

Thanks... no I probably misspelled it and missed the autocorrect HereSince1628 Dec 2014 #38

Yep. What HereSince1628 said. I'm a Physicist but (to me) Human Evolution is not as simple as a.. BlueJazz Dec 2014 #40

Actually, the illustration suggests human evolution is orthogenic which is mostly wrong. AlbertCat Dec 2014 #48

What I replied to was the claim that the slide communicates nothing wrong HereSince1628 Dec 2014 #71

What next. He'll be telling his students safeinOhio Dec 2014 #11

One thing you don't do is question "Four Corners" doctrine in KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #36

I visited that place once. VWolf Dec 2014 #104

beats me why a creationist would be in a biology class anyway. looks like they niyad Dec 2014 #12

Probably to fulfill a requirement. nt tblue37 Dec 2014 #13

And why get upset? AlbertCat Dec 2014 #49

Expansion on tblue 37 Feral Child Dec 2014 #103

I don't understand, according to the Bible the right side of the slide is exactly how they say it Rex Dec 2014 #15

Love that they used the Buddy Christ from Dogma. Initech Dec 2014 #16

Of course, we wouldn't want a university to teach science. Hats off to Mr. Bang. sinkingfeeling Dec 2014 #18

Oh, this will be on Fox "News" for ages sakabatou Dec 2014 #19

I thought it was Yahweh, the angry sky god of Iron Age goatherders, who created people Arugula Latte Dec 2014 #20

Jesus & Skygod are actually one in the same.... Moonwalk Dec 2014 #26

Yes, yes, I'm sure this convoluted piece of primitive mythological nonsense will all make sense Arugula Latte Dec 2014 #27

Were you there when He created the whirlwind? The first recorded STFU in KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #39

A total rip-off of the Ludlul-Bel-Nimeqi however whatthehey Dec 2014 #85

I'm not familiar with the tradition you reference here, but I'll willingly concede KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #87

Isn't that the image from the Jesus' General blog? hifiguy Dec 2014 #21

STFU juice...... Enthusiast Dec 2014 #41

Last I knew Boreal Dec 2014 #22

Nope. Because Christianity says Jesus & old testament god are one in the same... Moonwalk Dec 2014 #28

What was a creationist doing in a biology class? Thor_MN Dec 2014 #29

A non-major could betaking it to meet general studies requirements or as a degree requirement HereSince1628 Dec 2014 #37

It wasn't a literal question... Thor_MN Dec 2014 #74

It is rather confrontational. elleng Dec 2014 #30

Really??????? Tommymac Dec 2014 #97

Really elleng Dec 2014 #98

I thought they wanted to "teach the controversy" Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #32

I like that term�unsubstantiated mystical hoo-hah. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #35

I think they call it "a miracle" Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2014 #64

Sure. Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #73

Well, maybe in the cuckoos nest! Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2014 #75

I like it when Christian Conservatives fly into a vexatious rage. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #34

Especially when accompanied by copious amounts of gnashing of teeth and KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #42

Sure does. Youch! Enthusiast Dec 2014 #59

It's Always Useful To Remember.... Laxman Dec 2014 #43

Yup. I have a copy of "The Jefferson Bible." SunSeeker Dec 2014 #106

Anything that ridicules any religion is good with me The Green Manalishi Dec 2014 #44

() Roy Rolling Dec 2014 #95

Hilarious! SoapBox Dec 2014 #46

- Lion ROARS - hifiguy Dec 2014 #88

They don't handle ridicule, irony, or satire very well, do they? vlyons Dec 2014 #47

If these people were actually sound in their beliefs, they wouldn't care if someone mocked their chrisa Dec 2014 #50

Whats the problem, that is basically the Biblical position treestar Dec 2014 #51

I love when idiots think they're speaking for everyone Fearless Dec 2014 #53

�Quite a few students in the lecture hall were bothered by the picture, AlbertCat Dec 2014 #54

He'll get the boot Doctor_J Dec 2014 #56

You unbelievers will be laughing from hell! Enthusiast Dec 2014 #58

But we'll be in good company malaise Dec 2014 #62

some of my friends own the ice water concession, so we should all be okay. niyad Dec 2014 #109

I worked with a prof a few years ago who really pissed off a bunch of these guys. Xithras Dec 2014 #61

ohhhh, kudos to that prof!! that was brilliant! niyad Dec 2014 #110

Excellent job Professor. nt BootinUp Dec 2014 #63

What is really absurd about this is that college students can't handle a challenge . . . markpkessinger Dec 2014 #65

Why is he having this discussion. gladium et scutum Dec 2014 #66

Because invaribly the Creationists will bring it up... hunter Dec 2014 #93

So You would Fail A Student gladium et scutum Dec 2014 #99

I can assure you, Curmudgeoness Dec 2014 #101

Hell yes. hunter Dec 2014 #107

So you would fire gladium et scutum Dec 2014 #112

They demonstrably lack certain critical thinking skills. hunter Dec 2014 #113

That is all well and good gladium et scutum Dec 2014 #115

Yes, certain forms of "Creationism" and Fundamentalism are incompatible with science. hunter Dec 2014 #116

Why did Campus Reform watermark the image? hootinholler Dec 2014 #68

These students don't belong at a real university if they can't handle Zorra Dec 2014 #69

My thoughts exactly phil89 Dec 2014 #70

What would Buddy Jesus do? nt MrScorpio Dec 2014 #72

Evolution is an intelligent design indeed Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #76

The slide captures . . . MrModerate Dec 2014 #79

So in addition to "truthiness", Teavangelicals also have "sciencyness"? riqster Dec 2014 #80

How would Socrates have fared The Wizard Dec 2014 #82

He should have used "miracle" instead of "magic" Taitertots Dec 2014 #86

"God is not a magician." bklyncowgirl Dec 2014 #89

So-called "Christians" in a vexatious rage DFW Dec 2014 #90

Mocking people's beliefs is never helpful. dawg Dec 2014 #91

sometimes we need the fun--and would not do it if they weren't so darned earnest about the niyad Dec 2014 #111

Sometimes it's necessary. The Christian Right Wing has crossed the bridge to crazy land. RBInMaine Dec 2014 #114

"Zero tolerance policy for fairy tales" should be the Common Core science curriculum standard. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #92

Let's review the definitions for "religion" and "myth" again, shall we? KansDem Dec 2014 #94

I can understand the anger packman Dec 2014 #96

What upsets them the most is the idea that humans weren't always white. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #100

Love this and good for the Prof amuse bouche Dec 2014 #102

There's also another "magic" connection. Trillo Dec 2014 #108