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defacto7

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Thu Dec 25, 2014, 03:40 AM

Dec 2014

who will try to poke holes in the established stance looking for angles that may tell us more or that find a chink in the logic, I'm afraid I'll have to apply Occam's razor on this one. It does look a lot like PR flimflams we have seen in the past over and over, but the logic lies in the simple facts this time. There's way too much for SONY to loose in a PR hoax and they have lost, and they will loose more. People's credibility has been ruined and the fights will continue. The only way left for this to be a PR stunt would be if, after a year or so, SONY and all the people who took the brunt of the email release come out clean and that fish smell turns to roses. Then I'll be calling BS for sure. I don't see that happening though. Just too much to loose and it could even cost SONY a legal nightmare with the US government if it was a scam.

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I'm starting to smell a rat... [View all] Archae Dec 2014 OP

This continues to be the most idiotic line of all Blue_Adept Dec 2014 #1

you should know by now that we never let the facts interfer with a good conspiracy DrDan Dec 2014 #3

Yup. Agschmid Dec 2014 #11

That occurred to me too, days ago but LiberalElite Dec 2014 #104

I know what you mean - the longer the thread, the more the creative twist to reality DrDan Dec 2014 #161

I could not agree more! SkyDaddy7 Dec 2014 #16

And just as many deny conspiracies ever exist. Why would people conspire? rhett o rick Dec 2014 #23

I don't think very many people deny conspiracies exist. But to succeed Schema Thing Dec 2014 #31

Are you kidding? whathehell Dec 2014 #34

yes, for very good reason. But why do you assume that Schema Thing Dec 2014 #39

I guess I don't think it's for a "very good reason".. whathehell Dec 2014 #62

The problem is... Blue_Adept Dec 2014 #65

Really? whathehell Dec 2014 #70

So are you suggesting we have a test to decide on how knowledgeable posters are before they rhett o rick Dec 2014 #75

You've not answered the question..What's the "genre" you claim to have been whathehell Dec 2014 #84

It's always surprised me that people here Contrary1 Dec 2014 #68

Exactly, although when I think of it, whathehell Dec 2014 #74

... SammyWinstonJack Dec 2014 #85

I agree with your second sentence but not your first. When a person's first reaction rhett o rick Dec 2014 #37

You too! Schema Thing Dec 2014 #40

Exactly.. whathehell Dec 2014 #106

so.... hopemountain Dec 2014 #103

Conspiracies to rob banks treestar Dec 2014 #77

" this one would be of no gain to the conspirators" I must admire your certainty. rhett o rick Dec 2014 #80

Well it is a fact that thousands were going to screen the film treestar Dec 2014 #97

So they conspired to lose tens of millions of dollars? zappaman Dec 2014 #107

Once again with the questions. If you have a point just spit it out. nm rhett o rick Dec 2014 #113

I can't ask you a question based on your comment? zappaman Dec 2014 #117

Hell no. But why do you guys hate to commit yourselves? nm rhett o rick Dec 2014 #130

Not sure what you are saying, but you didn't answer my question. zappaman Dec 2014 #132

Let's get something straight. I am not an authoritarian and don't bow to your demands. rhett o rick Dec 2014 #134

Ha! zappaman Dec 2014 #148

Maybe they want to see what the bottom line would be to release a film directly to the internet? A Simple Game Dec 2014 #122

5.99 for any number of people viewing in a household is significantly less zappaman Dec 2014 #125

The studio gets $10 per person? I doubt that. A Simple Game Dec 2014 #128

The studio gets up to 90% of the first weekends box office. zappaman Dec 2014 #131

I would be happy for you to give me your ideas and said so in my first post. A Simple Game Dec 2014 #142

I've been marketing movies for 30 years while you've been avoiding movie theaters zappaman Dec 2014 #145

What amazes me is the overuse of the word 'Conspiracy' every time sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #35

This OP thought outside the box treestar Dec 2014 #98

The first responder was unnecessarily rude. nm rhett o rick Dec 2014 #114

No, no one has to agree with anything. I didn't see the OP however, sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #163

How rude to call someone that you don't agree with "nuts" and saying their OP is "idiotic". rhett o rick Dec 2014 #20

Open minds are a dangerous thing. zeemike Dec 2014 #26

Of course sir. Please forgive my slip out of the authoritarian "reality" for a post. rhett o rick Dec 2014 #29

Good. zeemike Dec 2014 #38

+100 whathehell Dec 2014 #36

It must smell like fish, because it sure as hell doesn't smell like money. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #46

I am not arguing that this was or wasn't a conspiracy. My concern is that we can discuss rhett o rick Dec 2014 #73

Then something like 'smells fishy' should be accompanied by facts. Such as 'Cui Bono' AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #79

Exactly. zappaman Dec 2014 #87

Everything is rude these days Blue_Adept Dec 2014 #51

No, it'a actually a choice.. whathehell Dec 2014 #67

And we all have different levels of what's considered rude Blue_Adept Dec 2014 #69

The "level" here has descended to rank bottom. whathehell Dec 2014 #71

We've had intolerable jerks here for almost fifteen years Blue_Adept Dec 2014 #72

Indeed, but their numbers appear to be increasing.. whathehell Dec 2014 #76

It's never appropriate to call posters names. And I think it a little audacious for you to rhett o rick Dec 2014 #137

It seems this is not about the argument, defacto7 Dec 2014 #158

Sometimes statements are so off base that they are idiotic. nt Logical Dec 2014 #111

And when that happens you have a lot of options. Name calling should not be one. nm rhett o rick Dec 2014 #112

I hear that Bush Jr. was advised of the film's storyline in August, yet he did nothing. Orrex Dec 2014 #27

! AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #47

releasing ugly emails is also a pr win elehhhhna Dec 2014 #43

this. PeaceNikki Dec 2014 #96

Actually, I have to Agree with the OP. They got so much FREE PR. dballance Dec 2014 #121

Sony will lose their ass on this movie. You don't get it. And they would not leak their own..... Logical Dec 2014 #140

It's DU.... tammywammy Dec 2014 #147

Some people hate it when facts challenge their world view. zappaman Dec 2014 #150

I never said Sony leaked their own e-mails. dballance Dec 2014 #164

Yeah, something is rotten in Denmark (Hollywood) TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #2

Frank Drebbin foiled a plot against Queen Elizabeth.... MADem Dec 2014 #5

Valkyrie was based on a true story Beaverhausen Dec 2014 #115

I understand the Germans who revered the character Cruise played found his performance MADem Dec 2014 #166

Looks like another $100 million dollars worth of publicity... HoosierCowboy Dec 2014 #4

damn i thought you were the DUer most against conspiracy woo! m-lekktor Dec 2014 #6

I have a few doubts... Archae Dec 2014 #7

Sorry but you're off on this one. zappaman Dec 2014 #88

That's absurd. It's just absurd. Executives destroy their own reputations and important Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #8

I agree with you, it's absurd. Little Star Dec 2014 #17

Exactly. You can't even put a dollar value on the torched relationships with various AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #50

The movie business has thrived on publicity both good and bad since its Cleita Dec 2014 #60

The OP is a foolish, absurd and silly thing. Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #95

I forgot you are an authority on everything you know nothing about. Cleita Dec 2014 #108

I love how the GOP tells their supporters it's their duty to go see 'The Interview' LynneSin Dec 2014 #9

Nah, it's just dumb luck. AtomicKitten Dec 2014 #10

Your OP is a stunt. Agschmid Dec 2014 #12

I am probably alone... or at least in a minority.... Abbraxus Dec 2014 #13

That "smell" is coming from the carcass of this lousy rotten movie... Lodestar Dec 2014 #14

No 'Interview' screening slated for Omaha Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #15

What you smell is your own conspiracy fantasy. on point Dec 2014 #18

That's odd, when read your op I heard, saw and smelled tinfoil Lurks Often Dec 2014 #19

In America everyone smells rats. DeSwiss Dec 2014 #21

Your OP is an excellent example of why "Cui Bono" doesn't always work. stevenleser Dec 2014 #22

In La-La Land, the only bad publicity is no publicity. - nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #24

That's exactly what I said to my husband yesterday. Vinca Dec 2014 #25

In the beginning... DawgHouse Dec 2014 #28

Yep!! Nt newfie11 Dec 2014 #30

I smell one Stupid Nation, united under terror by media. 2 weeks ago folks were terrified of NK Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #32

I suspect the sarcasm tag was supposed to be unnecessary for obvious reasons Nac Mac Feegle Dec 2014 #33

Well they better not get caught then. Iggo Dec 2014 #41

I'm sposed to believe NK's dial-up level interent capability pulled up this hack. KG Dec 2014 #42

+1 OnyxCollie Dec 2014 #129

I have known this story line was bogus from the first second. As for a PR stunt? I don't know, but GoneFishin Dec 2014 #44

I'll take a stab at it.. Lodestar Dec 2014 #53

Best movie pitch since "The Player" ThoughtCriminal Dec 2014 #91

Sounds like a pre-Benghazi movie I recall hearing about. Festivito Dec 2014 #141

I agree.... kentuck Dec 2014 #45

If so it would make more sense if the film was in general release rather than the now Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #48

If it was planned, it wouldn't have been planned with racist executive emails. cigsandcoffee Dec 2014 #49

I have't in my nose too oberliner Dec 2014 #52

Said it last night to the wife ...it's a form of disaster economics ...for the MPA. L0oniX Dec 2014 #54

Latest on news this morning is that some 200 theaters are going to go ahead Cleita Dec 2014 #55

Some serious victim blaming here Blue_Adept Dec 2014 #56

Repeating what I heard on the news. Blame them. Cleita Dec 2014 #57

And we all know how reliable the news is around here Blue_Adept Dec 2014 #61

You have a merry Christmas too. Cleita Dec 2014 #109

LOL..... Logical Dec 2014 #143

I never spend even ten minutes thinking about math especially here. Cleita Dec 2014 #144

If this turns out to be fact, I think Sony should be brought up on charges for stirring up a crisis" zappaman Dec 2014 #151

Have a lovely Christmas. Cleita Dec 2014 #152

830 zappaman Dec 2014 #154

I don't know, but I'm sick of hearing about this movie. ecstatic Dec 2014 #58

nonsense. they're making lemonade out of lemons. unblock Dec 2014 #59

I had no desire to see the movie when I first heard about it MiniMe Dec 2014 #63

Why do you hate America?? tradewinds Dec 2014 #64

We live in a propaganda state now woo me with science Dec 2014 #66

LOL, I was thinking the same thing the other day when all this broke! B Calm Dec 2014 #78

If it is a PR stunt, it is a monumentally stupid one since Skidmore Dec 2014 #81

They threatened to go 9/11 on movie theaters. Iggo Dec 2014 #92

I thin it was a PR stunt too notadmblnd Dec 2014 #82

I'm glad you don't work for a PR firm if this is your idea of a stunt... Drunken Irishman Dec 2014 #83

SONY is losing a lot of money over this. zappaman Dec 2014 #86

Why isn't it our duty to see that crappy movie about Mohammed? hugo_from_TN Dec 2014 #89

Due to the fact the so many politicians Boreal Dec 2014 #167

51 people recommended this OP? really? Beaverhausen Dec 2014 #90

I'm about to be next Ruby the Liberal Dec 2014 #94

lol +1 DrDan Dec 2014 #99

People love to make shit up. nt Logical Dec 2014 #139

How much does a movie ticket cost - more than $6 to view online? Ruby the Liberal Dec 2014 #93

No correct responses to this OP forces me to come out of the shadows Flying Squirrel Dec 2014 #100

That, or Sony's Marketing Department opened a bigger can o'worms Ruby the Liberal Dec 2014 #116

You mention NK and their nuclear program 90-percent Dec 2014 #127

Been saying that from the start. GoCubsGo Dec 2014 #101

it was an inside job but Skittles Dec 2014 #102

are sony really going to lose money on the movie? politicman Dec 2014 #105

I think you love conspiracy's. nt Logical Dec 2014 #110

Well guess what? Reuters is in on the conspiracy! Shh...don't tell the 'concerned' for Sony! Rex Dec 2014 #118

Perhaps the whole thing was a ruse to get China's cooperation so we could take out N.K.'s Lodestar Dec 2014 #162

I'm going to go w/ Archae. One big PR Stunt dballance Dec 2014 #119

Umm, Sony intentionally pissed off all their women actors, execs, and staff for one movie? X_Digger Dec 2014 #120

One possibility for the increasing popularity of conspiracy theories 90-percent Dec 2014 #123

omg , so do I. And the PR stunt worked.lol SummerSnow Dec 2014 #124

Mott the hoople, and the game of life... Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #126

Man, I wondered that myself. calimary Dec 2014 #133

ummmm yeah right rtracey Dec 2014 #135

I'm skeptical, like the dude from Cloudflare. Disgruntled insider a possibility. WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #136

With such a limited openning? If the movie's bad, it'll tank with a smaller numbers. marble falls Dec 2014 #138

My wife and I came to the same conclusion during a phone call a couple of days ago. denbot Dec 2014 #146

Then there's the potential lawsuits from Sony employees because of violations of privacy.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #149

Agree, PR stunt. If it EVER was unsafe, they would not be showing the movie. TheNutcracker Dec 2014 #153

Archae, I don't put anything past anybody. A dumb Fuck (Bush) sold a war to a lot of Dumb Fucks.. BlueJazz Dec 2014 #155

I'm sure it's not a PR stunt. That's a conspiracy theory. Far too many people are involved. Omnith Dec 2014 #156

I don't think any of this was an intentional "PR Stunt" on the part of Sony... elzenmahn Dec 2014 #157

All I know is that it looks like a stupid movie and I'm certainly not going to go see it just liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #159

Although I appreciate anyone defacto7 Dec 2014 #160

Wag the dog reorg Dec 2014 #165

Nah JonLP24 Dec 2014 #168

It smells just like... irrational hysteria. LanternWaste Dec 2014 #169