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JonLP24

(29,934 posts)
15. This was the first Obama did the bothered me
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 03:59 AM
Dec 2014

The administration also has found a way to avoid distribution of the photographs just before Obama travels to Egypt to speak directly to Muslims. Government lawyers had promised a federal judge to turn over the photos by May 28, a week before the president's trip.On Wednesday, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said the president will try to block the court-ordered release of hundreds of photos showing US troops abusing prisoners; he reversed his position after military commanders warned that the images could stoke anti-American sentiment and endanger soldiers.

The same arguments were made last month against releasing so-called torture memos, Bush-era documents outlining often-harsh methods CIA agents could use when interrogating terror suspects. Obama released the memos anyway.

The pictures, said to show mistreatment of detainees in Iraq and Afghanistan, are the subject of a federal Freedom of Information Act lawsuit brought by the American Civil Liberties Union, an advocacy group. The government recently had agreed to release 44 photographs and said in court papers it was “processing for release a substantial number of other images,” for a total expected to be in the hundreds.

Gibbs said the president wants administration lawyers to challenge the photos' release based on national security. He said that argument was not used before.

“The president does not believe that the strongest case regarding the release of these photos was presented to the court,” he said.

The former Bush administration already argued against the release on national security grounds and lost. ACLU lawyer Jameel Jaffer said that argument “has been made by the government multiple times, and has been rejected unequivocally every time.”In September 2008, a three-judge federal appeals panel in New York wrote “It is plainly insufficient to claim that releasing documents could reasonably be expected to endanger some unspecified member of a group so vast as to encompass all United States troops, coalition forces, and civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan.”

http://www.dawn.com/news/818553/obama-revives-old-arguments-on-torture-photos

2014 he still uses the argument. Tensions are already inflamed, give up on that shit. Doing it in the first place inflames the tensions, but it is the release of it that inflames. I wonder what the things are we don't know.

It started out so promising too
Obama said of the Freedom of Information Act in a January 21 memo, “The government should not keep information confidential merely because public officials might be embarrassed by disclosure, because errors and failures might be revealed, or because of speculative or abstract fears.”

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Good. nt Cali_Democrat Dec 2014 #1
I wouldn't send anybody to a country that tortures. Downwinder Dec 2014 #2
Tortured. that shit is done. Cha Dec 2014 #3
Long term solitary confinements? Downwinder Dec 2014 #5
The torturing is done. Cha Dec 2014 #6
lol, right because you say so, okay. closeupready Dec 2014 #7
No, because it is. Cha Dec 2014 #8
Obama isn't going to be President forever JonLP24 Dec 2014 #11
The police regularly use multiple Taser attacks. Savannahmann Dec 2014 #30
No, it really isn't Spider Jerusalem Dec 2014 #10
+100 And don't forget Gitmo... countryjake Dec 2014 #12
This was the first Obama did the bothered me JonLP24 Dec 2014 #15
And why would the US torture Assata Shakur? nt MrScorpio Dec 2014 #18
Since May 2, 2005, the FBI has classified Downwinder Dec 2014 #21
Is that reason enough to submit her to torture, or merely federal prosecution? nt MrScorpio Dec 2014 #22
According to Shakur, Downwinder Dec 2014 #23
I'm sure that she's been beaten and treated in ways that could be described as "torture" in the past MrScorpio Dec 2014 #25
My understanding is that domestic terrorists go to Downwinder Dec 2014 #26
That is, of course, perhaps when they're NOT sentenced to probation instead... MrScorpio Dec 2014 #27
I consider the change in her FBI classification Downwinder Dec 2014 #28
Well, either way, they're not going to get their hands on her... MrScorpio Dec 2014 #29
Give it time. branford Dec 2014 #4
One day I looked into the details of all her cases JonLP24 Dec 2014 #9
Question about the details Jim Lane Dec 2014 #31
It is inaccurate, because she was convicted of a second murder, also, that of Fayd Shakur. msanthrope Dec 2014 #32
I really have no interest in retrying the case JonLP24 Dec 2014 #35
I actually didn't remember coming across something like that JonLP24 Dec 2014 #33
The predicate is the burglary of the cop's gun. Although there were assault charges, I think NJ msanthrope Dec 2014 #34
Who stole the gun? JonLP24 Dec 2014 #36
Thank the stars! countryjake Dec 2014 #13
good. NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #14
I read her autobiography. lovemydog Dec 2014 #16
Here is a soluttion... DAMANgoldberg Dec 2014 #17
The president only has the power to pardon or commute federal crimes. branford Dec 2014 #19
Thanks for clearing that up. DAMANgoldberg Dec 2014 #20
It won't matter. The bounty on her ensures that she won't be in Cuba much longer. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #24
And the bidding starts hack89 Dec 2014 #37
An aside. I remember when Cassius Clay changed his name to Muhammed Ali eridani Dec 2014 #38
Maybe we can trade them by giving them this guy: n2doc Dec 2014 #39
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