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MrScorpio

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25. I'm sure that she's been beaten and treated in ways that could be described as "torture" in the past
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 07:01 AM
Dec 2014

But here's where I'm having bit of a problem connecting your assertion that it's best for her to not be extradited to a "country that tortures:" Relevance, or the lack thereof.

We both understand that the entities that tortured detainees (Mostly Islamic) did so for reasons pertaining to the so-called War of Terror. Plus, the US under President Obama has indicated that those methods are no longer used.

The harsh treatment that she received didn't happen as a course of official US policy, as did the torture of detainees under Bush, did it not? So are you alleging that she's would be tortured anyway, with or without official sanction today?

Are you saying the government of the United States would go out of it's way to torture someone NOT associated with the War on Terror and by an administration that has stated that torture practices are no longer engaged in? And what information would they want to derive from torturing her? Wouldn't torturing her ultimately risk the government's case against her?

Now, let me say this, I'm glad that Cuba has chosen NOT to extradite her back to the States. But not for the same reasons that you've dug a hole and dropped yourself into for. I believe that she was political prisoner who was innocent of the charges they railroaded her on. Sending her back to this country would be a miscarriage of justice. And frankly, I don't see what good it would do to connect one policy under Bush, to the ending of that policy under Obama.

The situation wouldn't merit the use of torture as an official policy, if that's what you're alleging right now. It's just silly to bring it up.

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Good. nt Cali_Democrat Dec 2014 #1
I wouldn't send anybody to a country that tortures. Downwinder Dec 2014 #2
Tortured. that shit is done. Cha Dec 2014 #3
Long term solitary confinements? Downwinder Dec 2014 #5
The torturing is done. Cha Dec 2014 #6
lol, right because you say so, okay. closeupready Dec 2014 #7
No, because it is. Cha Dec 2014 #8
Obama isn't going to be President forever JonLP24 Dec 2014 #11
The police regularly use multiple Taser attacks. Savannahmann Dec 2014 #30
No, it really isn't Spider Jerusalem Dec 2014 #10
+100 And don't forget Gitmo... countryjake Dec 2014 #12
This was the first Obama did the bothered me JonLP24 Dec 2014 #15
And why would the US torture Assata Shakur? nt MrScorpio Dec 2014 #18
Since May 2, 2005, the FBI has classified Downwinder Dec 2014 #21
Is that reason enough to submit her to torture, or merely federal prosecution? nt MrScorpio Dec 2014 #22
According to Shakur, Downwinder Dec 2014 #23
I'm sure that she's been beaten and treated in ways that could be described as "torture" in the past MrScorpio Dec 2014 #25
My understanding is that domestic terrorists go to Downwinder Dec 2014 #26
That is, of course, perhaps when they're NOT sentenced to probation instead... MrScorpio Dec 2014 #27
I consider the change in her FBI classification Downwinder Dec 2014 #28
Well, either way, they're not going to get their hands on her... MrScorpio Dec 2014 #29
Give it time. branford Dec 2014 #4
One day I looked into the details of all her cases JonLP24 Dec 2014 #9
Question about the details Jim Lane Dec 2014 #31
It is inaccurate, because she was convicted of a second murder, also, that of Fayd Shakur. msanthrope Dec 2014 #32
I really have no interest in retrying the case JonLP24 Dec 2014 #35
I actually didn't remember coming across something like that JonLP24 Dec 2014 #33
The predicate is the burglary of the cop's gun. Although there were assault charges, I think NJ msanthrope Dec 2014 #34
Who stole the gun? JonLP24 Dec 2014 #36
Thank the stars! countryjake Dec 2014 #13
good. NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #14
I read her autobiography. lovemydog Dec 2014 #16
Here is a soluttion... DAMANgoldberg Dec 2014 #17
The president only has the power to pardon or commute federal crimes. branford Dec 2014 #19
Thanks for clearing that up. DAMANgoldberg Dec 2014 #20
It won't matter. The bounty on her ensures that she won't be in Cuba much longer. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #24
And the bidding starts hack89 Dec 2014 #37
An aside. I remember when Cassius Clay changed his name to Muhammed Ali eridani Dec 2014 #38
Maybe we can trade them by giving them this guy: n2doc Dec 2014 #39
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