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Savannahmann

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30. The police regularly use multiple Taser attacks.

Thu Dec 25, 2014, 07:39 AM

Dec 2014

Despite the fact that the Supreme Court has ruled this is cruel and unusual punishment.

The Police regularly use Pepper Spray, allow me to correct that. The Police regularly use police strength pepper spray on people as a punitive measure, also Cruel and Unusual punishment in my opinion.

This was done to a Military Prisoner, which would fall under the President wouldn't it?

Note that the prisoner is already restrained. Thus the pepper spray is not being used to disperse a crowd or to subdue the subject, but in a punitive manner. The prisoner is being punished by being sprayed with this police strength (stronger than you can buy) pepper spray.

This man died from being sprayed with the stuff, it caused respiratory distress and he was left, restrained and choking on the fumes.

So tell me again how we don't torture people? Because being sprayed with a caustic agent in a punitive manner intended to cause severe pain would seem to undermine your argument.

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Cuba Will Not Return Assata Shakur to US [View all] eridani Dec 2014 OP

Good. nt Cali_Democrat Dec 2014 #1

I wouldn't send anybody to a country that tortures. Downwinder Dec 2014 #2

Tortured. that shit is done. Cha Dec 2014 #3

Long term solitary confinements? Downwinder Dec 2014 #5

The torturing is done. Cha Dec 2014 #6

lol, right because you say so, okay. closeupready Dec 2014 #7

No, because it is. Cha Dec 2014 #8

Obama isn't going to be President forever JonLP24 Dec 2014 #11

The police regularly use multiple Taser attacks. Savannahmann Dec 2014 #30

No, it really isn't Spider Jerusalem Dec 2014 #10

+100 And don't forget Gitmo... countryjake Dec 2014 #12

This was the first Obama did the bothered me JonLP24 Dec 2014 #15

And why would the US torture Assata Shakur? nt MrScorpio Dec 2014 #18

Since May 2, 2005, the FBI has classified Downwinder Dec 2014 #21

Is that reason enough to submit her to torture, or merely federal prosecution? nt MrScorpio Dec 2014 #22

According to Shakur, Downwinder Dec 2014 #23

I'm sure that she's been beaten and treated in ways that could be described as "torture" in the past MrScorpio Dec 2014 #25

My understanding is that domestic terrorists go to Downwinder Dec 2014 #26

That is, of course, perhaps when they're NOT sentenced to probation instead... MrScorpio Dec 2014 #27

I consider the change in her FBI classification Downwinder Dec 2014 #28

Well, either way, they're not going to get their hands on her... MrScorpio Dec 2014 #29

Give it time. branford Dec 2014 #4

One day I looked into the details of all her cases JonLP24 Dec 2014 #9

Question about the details Jim Lane Dec 2014 #31

It is inaccurate, because she was convicted of a second murder, also, that of Fayd Shakur. msanthrope Dec 2014 #32

I really have no interest in retrying the case JonLP24 Dec 2014 #35

I actually didn't remember coming across something like that JonLP24 Dec 2014 #33

The predicate is the burglary of the cop's gun. Although there were assault charges, I think NJ msanthrope Dec 2014 #34

Who stole the gun? JonLP24 Dec 2014 #36

Thank the stars! countryjake Dec 2014 #13

good. NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #14

I read her autobiography. lovemydog Dec 2014 #16

Here is a soluttion... DAMANgoldberg Dec 2014 #17

The president only has the power to pardon or commute federal crimes. branford Dec 2014 #19

Thanks for clearing that up. DAMANgoldberg Dec 2014 #20

It won't matter. The bounty on her ensures that she won't be in Cuba much longer. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #24

And the bidding starts hack89 Dec 2014 #37

An aside. I remember when Cassius Clay changed his name to Muhammed Ali eridani Dec 2014 #38

Maybe we can trade them by giving them this guy: n2doc Dec 2014 #39