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white_wolf

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23. Did I ever once say it was utopia?

Reply to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #21)

Mon Apr 23, 2012, 03:09 PM

Apr 2012

Nice strawmen, though. The fact is that Norway handled this much better than the U.S. would have. Come back when you have better arguments aside from fallacies.

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"This is the Norwegian way..........We need to carry this out in a dignified manner." [View all] marmar Apr 2012 OP

Good for the Norwegians. CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2012 #1

Agreed. marmar Apr 2012 #2

agreed nt steve2470 Apr 2012 #3

+1 nt gateley Apr 2012 #4

+1000 Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #19

Wow .... such a midset explains much. BOHICA12 Apr 2012 #5

to you executing a human being takes stones? fascisthunter Apr 2012 #20

Thank you. ellisonz Apr 2012 #24

Thank you. white_wolf Apr 2012 #32

So you're saying Norway is devoid of testicles since they don't execute people? DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #26

Kill my kid in a premeditated masacre and face 21 years time .... BOHICA12 Apr 2012 #38

Just let me know the minute your testicles are considered the rule of law, and we're all good DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #47

Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #50

And in this way, you and the shooter are the same. He's accepting his "societal sanction", if you DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #53

Stones? Really? MineralMan Apr 2012 #33

Various facts about Norway Mendocino Apr 2012 #60

You are very good at making a point. Rose Siding Apr 2012 #61

When the defendant is given a dignified trial then there is no one who cans claim it was not a fair jwirr Apr 2012 #6

Post WWII, Norway handled the collaborator situation rather well Kaleva Apr 2012 #7

Norway is a civilized nation Domingo Tavella Apr 2012 #8

If that's the "Norwegian way," I, for one, am glad we here in the U.S. do not resemble it. n/t. apocalypsehow Apr 2012 #9

Yeah, civility and due process....... marmar Apr 2012 #10

Yeah, because we have neither "civility" nor "due process" in the United States... apocalypsehow Apr 2012 #11

We will evenutally give them a day in court, and call it due process, bahrbearian Apr 2012 #14

Your government can pick you up for no reason and hand you over to the military EFerrari Apr 2012 #43

Or even better... white_wolf Apr 2012 #49

Yes we need to put them in solitary ,Naked,,, bahrbearian Apr 2012 #12

We need to lock them up with no charges for 18 months, in seclusion bahrbearian Apr 2012 #13

I'll take the "Norwegian way" over the American way on so many fronts, any day. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #30

half Norwegian here Skittles Apr 2012 #15

Half Norwegian here, too, and I was IN NORWAY the weekend of the attacks Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #18

Half Norwegian here to but the other half Raine Apr 2012 #35

Once again, the Norwegian way sure as hell beats the American way. white_wolf Apr 2012 #16

And yet, this crime happened..... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2012 #21

Did I ever once say it was utopia? white_wolf Apr 2012 #23

If it happened in the US, he likely would have been dead before he got to his 25th victim. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2012 #39

No, if someone killed him in self-defense than so be it... white_wolf Apr 2012 #41

Oh, baloney ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2012 #51

There are plenty of ways we are barbaic beyond the justice system. white_wolf Apr 2012 #55

One horrific abberation. For horror in america CBGLuthier Apr 2012 #29

Funny how his reading list was a who's who of crazy American right wingers sudopod Apr 2012 #34

! fascisthunter Apr 2012 #42

Were they the only people on his reading list? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2012 #46

No, really, me and all the other lefties here hate America more than anything else. sudopod Apr 2012 #64

Funny how his reading list is a who's who of crazy Finnish nationalists, isn't it? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2012 #65

It's not too late for you to go experience Norway first hand Renew Deal Apr 2012 #40

A love it or leave it post. white_wolf Apr 2012 #44

There is always an excuse Renew Deal Apr 2012 #45

Immigration laws, eh? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2012 #56

If you are going to resort to one liners, I'm done. white_wolf Apr 2012 #58

No, I'm legit curious as to what those immigration laws are ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2012 #59

I have experienced Norway first hand. Not as a citizen/long-term resident but on several visits LeftishBrit Apr 2012 #62

it's not even a little barbaric where I live, my friend- or a teeny bit right wing. cali Apr 2012 #54

Of course there are worse places. white_wolf Apr 2012 #57

Anybody here remember the Jamie Bulger murder in Britain about 20 years ago? RZM Apr 2012 #17

"21 years in prison" for 77 lives ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2012 #22

Not quite... ellisonz Apr 2012 #25

That man will never breathe free air again in his life CBGLuthier Apr 2012 #31

Watch yourself ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2012 #48

"Due process" is just so . . . pre-9/11 gratuitous Apr 2012 #27

We could learn a lot from the Norwegians...knr joeybee12 Apr 2012 #28

Only 21 years in prison? For killing 77 people? Norwegian justice might be less theatrical, but Erose999 Apr 2012 #36

See Post #25 Above. n/t ellisonz Apr 2012 #52

Actually he probably never will be let loose LeftishBrit Apr 2012 #63

Having known some Scandinavians and one or two Norwegians, they seem to be gentle people who Cleita Apr 2012 #37