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22. What they believe, Jesus never said.

Thu Dec 25, 2014, 11:43 PM

Dec 2014

Jesus was no labor leader, and yet he never suggested that the injustice the poor suffered had any thing to do with immorality. Rather, he said the rich have their reward. Jesus never told people to revolt against the power structure, but when he attacked the money trading he attacked the whole crooked structure of the temple hierarchy.

No one could offer any but the coin of Israel. People coming from great distances had foreign coin. Okay; we swap you out here on the temple steps, and you take a beating, and go make your offering. Do you think it ever occurred to anyone but Jesus that the coin going in was circulated out and sold at a profit the next day? The priests got their cut. The money changers got their cut, the customer took a beating and so did God.

Jesus may have consider God in truly cosmic proportions, and as with Job, having the power to make up any injury; but he was no dummy. In all but John, that was the end of Jesus, the final act of his ministry. You simply cannot mess with the money.

That story of the Good Samaritan tells what Jesus thought of the priests. They walked around the injured man to keep from having their source of income disrupted. The Samaritan did far more than help him when he was down. He cared for the man, and not only in a financial sense, but in the sense of caring as love.

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It always has been, since the beginning Spider Jerusalem Dec 2014 #1

I call that tangible justification. If there is a better name for it please let me know. Sweeney Dec 2014 #18

"Predestination of the elect" (those not among the elect were "reprobates"). Spider Jerusalem Dec 2014 #21

agreed. he as born, lived in, helped, died for the poor. roguevalley Dec 2014 #41

Puritan work ethic Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #2

Nail meets hammer swilton Dec 2014 #10

Good book, read it. Got it. Sweeney Dec 2014 #19

In modern times: Jimmy Bakker, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and their idol Ronald Reagan. jwirr Dec 2014 #3

Reagan(in a speech in liberal Olympia, Washington, of all places) Ken Burch Dec 2014 #4

Thank you. His speech on the value of greed and hate. Imagine what we would be if that man had jwirr Dec 2014 #6

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I've always considered Mormonism another step down that same road: truebluegreen Dec 2014 #11

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it's almost as if to say sweetapogee Dec 2014 #24

What they believe, Jesus never said. Sweeney Dec 2014 #22

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One of the few books I ever made time to read twice. Sweeney Dec 2014 #47

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Actually, tangible justification, Sweeney Dec 2014 #17

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Surely. :-) Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #51

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