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merrily

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12. As soon as Jeb announced he was exploring, pundits began predicting very low turnout if it's
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 07:56 AM
Dec 2014

Bush v. Clinton in 2016.

Personally, I vote and urge everyone else to vote as well, but I agree that turnout will be low if it's Clinton v. Bush. And that is concerning, because, after 8 years of a Dem Pres, the right is likelier to turn out than the left, just as the left was likeliest to turn out in 2008 and the right was likeliest to turn out in 2000.

As far as Sotomayor and Kagan, we'll see what happens once Ginsburg is no longer on the court. As it is, Breyer and Kagan voted with Republicans in the part of the Obamacare case that struck down the option of the feds to withdraw Medicaid from states that refused to expand Medicaid according to the ACA (the much less publicized half of that case).

Some of the most liberal justices in the history of the Court, such as Warren and Stevens, were appointed by Republican Presidents, though I agree that is not likely to happen as the nation gets more divided. However as appointees get more Third Way, there is no guaranty that will always vote as traditional Democrats might prefer, either. I think it's just as important, if not more so, to figure out some way(s) to stop the general rightward movement of both of the two largest political Parties.

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If 2016 is Clinton vs Bush [View all] DonCoquixote Dec 2014 OP
Is Jeb intelligent? TexasTowelie Dec 2014 #1
If another Bush ends up nominated, I think that it's proof of pathological sickness... MrScorpio Dec 2014 #2
Because corporations are inherently amoral, and being that silvershadow Dec 2014 #6
The same could be said regarding electing another Clinton. Jackpine Radical Dec 2014 #26
Indeed. hifiguy Dec 2014 #32
Yeah, because... bobclark86 Dec 2014 #3
show me where Hillary had said she would do these things DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #7
easy VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #19
So... you DID entirely miss the 90s and 2000s then... bobclark86 Dec 2014 #27
speeches DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #36
So... you see dozens of positions she has different than Jeb Bush... bobclark86 Dec 2014 #40
Funnt how I even said i would vote for her if she was the last choice DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #41
What other candidates have answered or given positions on everything? Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #42
not on everythign DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #45
If that happens I predict that DU will be dead in the water. delrem Dec 2014 #4
.... DeSwiss Dec 2014 #5
Have you looked at Hillary and Jeb on the issues? Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #8
Pro TPP and GMO is left liberal? PADemD Dec 2014 #17
Shhhhhh - just look at the blue linkies.......you are getting sleepy......just pledge...... n/t djean111 Dec 2014 #28
Their stands are not based on a couple of issues. As far as the GMO are concerned if the bills are Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #37
"really left liberal" marmar Dec 2014 #46
it will be quite a spectacle IMHO. n/t wildbilln864 Dec 2014 #9
Well . . . maybe from the distance of a thousand years and a galaxy far far away ucrdem Dec 2014 #10
If 2016 is Clinton vs Bush America LOSES no matter which one wins. ChosenUnWisely Dec 2014 #11
thats total bunk VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #13
OK We are all entitled to our own opinion and choice in the voting booth ChosenUnWisely Dec 2014 #16
and thank god cooler heads will prevail then VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #18
Whoever you think the "cooler heads" are, here at DU, will have zero impact djean111 Dec 2014 #29
America cannot afford anymore politicians, period. AgingAmerican Dec 2014 #44
As soon as Jeb announced he was exploring, pundits began predicting very low turnout if it's merrily Dec 2014 #12
did everyone turn out to vote for Obama? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #14
could be a five-party race. rogerashton Dec 2014 #15
Young people are libertarian, really??? DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2014 #21
Your confidence is inspiring, if not rogerashton Dec 2014 #22
"Want to get your undies untwisted?" DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2014 #25
I prefer not to contemplate LWolf Dec 2014 #20
Clinton vs Bush = centrist left vs centrist right. The most boring election season evah. L0oniX Dec 2014 #23
Yeah, it used to be called the Democratic Party. Seems like that, anyway. n/t djean111 Dec 2014 #30
More like Corporatist Red vs. Corporatist Blue. hedda_foil Dec 2014 #38
I will be voting for someone else bigwillq Dec 2014 #24
I don't share your optimism about the type of SCOTUS justices Clinton might appoint tularetom Dec 2014 #31
I agree. I don't understand why anyone thinks Hillary will appoint anything but a djean111 Dec 2014 #33
true, but DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #35
Decision 2016: "One winner, 320 million losers". hughee99 Dec 2014 #34
if that happens I'll be voting third party. 99Forever Dec 2014 #39
...get me sick bucket. roamer65 Dec 2014 #43
Then Marx will be right about history repeating itself 2nd time as farce. nt daredtowork Dec 2014 #47
I've almost resigned myself that it will be Hillary Clinton vs. Jeb Bush davidpdx Dec 2014 #48
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