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Erich Bloodaxe BSN

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1. Actually, I see nothing in that story that needs one to be 'open minded' or

Fri Dec 26, 2014, 01:39 PM

Dec 2014

'goes against the grain' of what DU folks discuss.

An officer is on administrative leave after shooting and killing a Bedford man with multiple convictions for violence against police.

(my bold)

Sounds like a white guy finally managed to get himself shot by police during a domestic dispute by charging officers while armed, after he had a long history of violent assaults on police.

If you're trying to wave a flag and say 'Look, police shoot white guys too!', I think you might note that long history of violence against police. Lots of black guys are getting shot the very first time they have a run-in with police. They don't get given the benefit of doubt that would allow them to build up those multiple convictions.

But even if this guy had been doing nothing wrong, had not already had 'multiple convictions for violence against police', had not been armed, and had managed to get himself shot, so what? That's what is called an 'anecdote'. It isn't representative of reality. You have to go to the statistics to see the real picture. And the statistics show your chances of being gunned down by police are far worse if your skin is darker-complected.

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Bedford, Ohio Man Shot and Killed by Police [View all] JEFF9K Dec 2014 OP

Actually, I see nothing in that story that needs one to be 'open minded' or Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #1

At the time of the story ... JEFF9K Dec 2014 #10

The racial aspect has been unnecessarily added? By whom? JaneyVee Dec 2014 #13

There are socio-economic reasons behind the demographics of crime. JEFF9K Dec 2014 #18

You assume they are all criminals JI7 Jan 2015 #46

Most people who are arrested are indeed criminals. JEFF9K Jan 2015 #47

I don't actually want police killing anyone. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #36

Not sure how this goes against the grain. dilby Dec 2014 #2

The "grain" here is ... JEFF9K Dec 2014 #12

That's not the grain. What's been happening lately is UNARMED black youth blm Dec 2014 #30

I'm so sick of being accused of hating all cops onecaliberal Dec 2014 #34

^^^ blm Dec 2014 #42

And here is what YOUR "grain" is.... Logical Dec 2014 #43

OK, what's the catch? MrScorpio Dec 2014 #3

Well, obviously we won't be in an uproar about it because he's white justiceischeap Dec 2014 #4

Maybe this will help: MrScorpio Dec 2014 #6

Nuance. JEFF9K Dec 2014 #14

no idea.. yuiyoshida Dec 2014 #5

I'll wait for the video. GeorgeGist Dec 2014 #7

Many police shootings are justified. It's the unjustified ones that give people problems. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #8

Nothing that goes against the grain at all. haele Dec 2014 #9

Lame attempt at flame bait Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #11

I left the post open to interpretation. JEFF9K Dec 2014 #16

It's cut and dry, why should anyone pretend otherwise? blm Jan 2015 #45

Oooof alcibiades_mystery Dec 2014 #15

You know nothing about me. JEFF9K Dec 2014 #17

no we don't know you rbrnmw Dec 2014 #22

Each thread stands on its own. JEFF9K Dec 2014 #23

The OP was flamebait rbrnmw Dec 2014 #25

Oh, I get it now, GGJohn Dec 2014 #26

You post a flame bait post then whine when people call you out! Classic! nt Logical Dec 2014 #44

Indeed randys1 Dec 2014 #27

You did not tell people here not to accuse you of a train of onecaliberal Dec 2014 #35

Why so friggin' coy? - nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #19

Try posting fact-based opinion ... JEFF9K Dec 2014 #24

Beware of the purity police, one wrong step and you're labeled. GGJohn Dec 2014 #28

So, in response to my question asking why you are so coy, you respond with KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #33

I've noticed that a near sure sign someone is full of shit and pressing an agenda is constantly TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #37

If you have a point... 99Forever Dec 2014 #20

If, after reading the linked articles, YOU have something to say ABOUT THE STORY, say it! JEFF9K Dec 2014 #31

I prefer not to chase your point. It's up to you to make. 99Forever Dec 2014 #40

I see it as White Privilege rbrnmw Dec 2014 #21

You can't back that up. JEFF9K Dec 2014 #29

I have no desire to engage you rbrnmw Dec 2014 #32

Correct answer...if DU is not going to recognize patterns of abusive behavior, then its members can alcibiades_mystery Dec 2014 #41

You can't support your opinions either. TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #38

Finally... MrScorpio Dec 2014 #39