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109. It was a gun. Agree with you.

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YOU CANNOT SEE A GUN IN THE VIDEOS RELEASED BY THE POLICE. [View all] sheshe2 Dec 2014 OP

I also have my doubts riverbendviewgal Dec 2014 #1

That's been debunked. _Blue_ Dec 2014 #2

Guns can't be planted? sheshe2 Dec 2014 #8

Do you see the cops flash light beam ? that wasn't his cell phone light helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #17

Conspiracy theories are getting a little ridiculous. _Blue_ Dec 2014 #18

Your use of the term "conspiracies theories" as a pejorative ends your creditability. nm rhett o rick Dec 2014 #81

No it doesn't. _Blue_ Dec 2014 #86

You mean everyone should agree with you and if they don't you wont tolerate it. rhett o rick Dec 2014 #113

The gun wasn't planted, despite how badly you want to believe that this was GGJohn Dec 2014 #19

Link please for where it states the gun wasn't planted... sheshe2 Dec 2014 #22

Link please where it states the gun was planted.... GGJohn Dec 2014 #27

Nope, you made a statement sheshe2 Dec 2014 #31

Of course guns can be planted, GGJohn Dec 2014 #33

Well of course not "in this case". sheshe2 Dec 2014 #46

No, common sense, try it. GGJohn Dec 2014 #50

Crystal ball tell u it was? 840high Dec 2014 #108

Is there any evidence it was? This is getting silly n/t Adrahil Dec 2014 #121

I love the audacity of your certainty. You are positive that the gun wasn't planted. rhett o rick Dec 2014 #82

I'll argue as I see fit, thank you very much. GGJohn Dec 2014 #83

I think that disagreements and honest discussions are healthy. I don't think that those rhett o rick Dec 2014 #115

That's a fair argument. GGJohn Dec 2014 #116

It's not necessary to be "forceful" if you have a decent arguement. But claiming that rhett o rick Dec 2014 #119

Here, not definitive evidence, but pretty damn convincing. GGJohn Dec 2014 #124

Are you arguing it was? cherokeeprogressive Dec 2014 #125

No, of course not. They're "just asking questions". greyl Dec 2014 #127

How can you tell...do you know anybody that was there because... Stellar Dec 2014 #157

Because I've yet to see a cellphone in the shape of a gun. GGJohn Dec 2014 #158

It's too bad all of what you say wasn't clear. Stellar Dec 2014 #163

There is a gun. You got any physical evidence that it was in his hand, or just jtuck004 Dec 2014 #40

Just the video, the officer and the criminal history. _Blue_ Dec 2014 #41

The officers criminal history? In other words you have nothing except victim blaming. jtuck004 Dec 2014 #44

No, the violent criminal history of the decedent. _Blue_ Dec 2014 #45

This grainy Rorschach-like image does not constitute "evidence" 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #66

nor does the criminal history of the dead man. having a criminal history doesn't = evidence NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #183

+10 nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #188

It is evidence, though. What it is worth pintobean Dec 2014 #192

It's not evidence. NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #193

It's pretty good evidence that he wasn't a very good citizen. GGJohn Dec 2014 #194

Take a look at your 1st video DallasNE Dec 2014 #71

It's also the type of gun planted by police; so its provenance can't be identified. duh. NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #191

I don't have a dog in this fight (meaning I haven't made up my mind)... Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2014 #87

Who can whip their phone out and have it ready to record that quickly? Ace Rothstein Dec 2014 #112

On top of I've never seen a cellphone shaped like a gun. GGJohn Dec 2014 #114

Obviously you have never had an Iphone. Alittleliberal Dec 2014 #148

Actually, there are apps that open the camera F4lconF16 Dec 2014 #151

On the iPhone, you don't need to unlock the phone and then separately click on the program. Luminous Animal Dec 2014 #176

You know JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #3

So maybe every public employee LincolnsLeftHand Dec 2014 #5

Your teachers, trash collectors and Congressmen are shooting at you? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #10

Has there been a rash of murders against unarmed civilians recently by these people? sheshe2 Dec 2014 #12

Well the employees you mentioned don't get into armed confrontations. Kingofalldems Dec 2014 #13

the employees you mentioned don't get into armed confrontations Kalidurga Dec 2014 #52

Only police folks can use deadly force as part of their job JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #15

Well, as a teacher, I can tell you that you might be stunned at the rampant 1monster Dec 2014 #47

That's precisely why . . . JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #56

In addition to 'more pay,' also 'more teachers,' which would lead to smaller class sizes, KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #84

Plus 100 on more teachers JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #142

As soon as you posted those kids misbehaving, you'd be sued over privacy... Sancho Dec 2014 #143

They weren't in my schools JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #144

Here in Florida almost all public schools have video everywhere now... Sancho Dec 2014 #147

I can't imagine being a teacher in Florida JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #149

Florida has lots of money, but they don't support teachers or state employees. Sancho Dec 2014 #150

I'm not sure about body cameras on teachers, A Simple Game Dec 2014 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #145

Who says police aren't welcome on DU? GGJohn Dec 2014 #153

Climbed the ladder quickly since August. pintobean Dec 2014 #154

Didn't know skinner and co. made him a partner. GGJohn Dec 2014 #155

If you were a good police officer who didn't shoot people without needing to gollygee Dec 2014 #162

I have an idea JAG. They should wear two cams. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #6

This Makes Sense DallasNE Dec 2014 #76

Or get alot of cops killed. GGJohn Dec 2014 #78

Or save a lot of lives. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #79

What's sad is your hatred for cops, GGJohn Dec 2014 #80

GG! sheshe2 Dec 2014 #89

I'm not saying there isn't a problem in this country with police brutality, GGJohn Dec 2014 #93

You have been asked REPEATEDLY to indicate ... Just for Fun Dec 2014 #95

The video provided by Blue clearly shows Martin pulling a gun and pointing it GGJohn Dec 2014 #98

If you have only been basing what you say on Blues sheshe2 Dec 2014 #101

Sorry you disagree, GGJohn Dec 2014 #102

Only to the pig-blind. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2014 #152

Only to those wearing rose colored glasses... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #184

Only those wearing blinders refuse to see what's obvious. GGJohn Dec 2014 #186

That's just it, GGJohn�. and you don't have to wear blinders... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #187

Just for you Just for fun. GGJohn Dec 2014 #103

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #160

And that statement would make you a liar. GGJohn Dec 2014 #164

You sure have a funnh way of showing it. ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #165

Number 1, this shooting isn't murder, it's a homicide. GGJohn Dec 2014 #166

Lol ok. Keep apologizing. ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #167

LOL ok, keep lying. GGJohn Dec 2014 #168

You're out of line. nt cwydro Dec 2014 #185

So, what do you say now? GGJohn Dec 2014 #205

I think it needs to be the glasses. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #9

very good suggestion - even augmented reality glasses or visor... Anansi1171 Dec 2014 #159

There are times they shouldn't be recording jeff47 Dec 2014 #24

I would agree with when they are peeing JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #25

WTH are you talking about? GGJohn Dec 2014 #4

link to that vid? thanks uppityperson Dec 2014 #7

It's the GIF from another thread. GGJohn Dec 2014 #16

There it is again, You can 'CLEARLY' see. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #23

To a trained eye, yes there is. GGJohn Dec 2014 #26

So you are a trained analyst? sheshe2 Dec 2014 #28

I was trained to analyze, observe and take appropriate action. GGJohn Dec 2014 #30

So you have all the equipment that CBS has... sheshe2 Dec 2014 #34

Ha!!! GGJohn Dec 2014 #35

No it's not. Just for Fun Dec 2014 #53

You need to catch up, that's all been debunked. GGJohn Dec 2014 #55

Debunked by what? The police? Just for Fun Dec 2014 #58

Debunked by the same photos you claim don't show a gun. GGJohn Dec 2014 #59

Uh-huh. Just for Fun Dec 2014 #60

Already been provided in different threads. GGJohn Dec 2014 #67

CBS? sendero Dec 2014 #100

what you just wrote heaven05 Dec 2014 #61

No, you're 100% wrong, GGJohn Dec 2014 #63

right heaven05 Dec 2014 #64

aww so you are a cop? rbrnmw Dec 2014 #141

I plainly see the gun. The police are right in this case. yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #37

Yes, I'm baffled by that too. Yo_Mama Dec 2014 #42

Gun was planted Just for Fun Dec 2014 #54

You need to catch up, GGJohn Dec 2014 #57

link and quote, too many copologist on DU for me to take someones word for it uponit7771 Dec 2014 #130

I also hold my cell phone like that when I'm recording video... justiceischeap Dec 2014 #29

You hold your cellphone like a gun? Your cellphone is shaped like a gun? GGJohn Dec 2014 #32

The video was edited by the BPD.. there's also a woman walking calmly towards the scene and shows no uponit7771 Dec 2014 #132

Gun-shaped phone cases benz380 Dec 2014 #169

Some weird reason, I can't open that link. GGJohn Dec 2014 #170

here's one pintobean Dec 2014 #172

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2014 #131

aha, and we are back that word, "clearly" which clearly means different things to you and me. nt uppityperson Dec 2014 #134

Umm, at 1:17, 1:18, and 1:19, you can see that the 'cell phone' is the corner of the flashlight beam X_Digger Dec 2014 #11

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^n/t truedelphi Dec 2014 #21

I cannot see squat in the video they released. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #14

I'm with you Boreal Dec 2014 #49

Nonsense Spider Jerusalem Dec 2014 #20

Seeing a weapon seveneyes Dec 2014 #36

^^^This^^^. eom GGJohn Dec 2014 #38

I saw one - being pointed at what appears to be the officer Yo_Mama Dec 2014 #39

It was a gun. Agree with you. 840high Dec 2014 #109

I saw him pointing. The video is too far away to decide if it's a gun or not, could have jtuck004 Dec 2014 #43

Please, this sort of nonsense is exploited by the rw media. Let's not give them ammunition Vattel Dec 2014 #51

The biggest problem here isn't the bad video Kalidurga Dec 2014 #62

Exactly Kalidurga.. What's the police procedure on following one of their shootings? Do they not Cha Dec 2014 #65

A lot of times, medical won't be allowed on the scene GGJohn Dec 2014 #68

And who declares the scene safe Kalidurga Dec 2014 #72

The cops declare the scene safe, GGJohn Dec 2014 #74

Do you not get why this is a problem? Kalidurga Dec 2014 #85

Do you not get that the scene may not have been safe at the time? GGJohn Dec 2014 #88

No I don't get that the scene was not safe. Kalidurga Dec 2014 #90

You do realize it's pretty standard operating procedure to be concerned about secondary attacks? mythology Dec 2014 #106

So now this kid was a terrorist? Kalidurga Dec 2014 #107

Do you get the the police has control of the crime scene and can plant whatever they want? Just for Fun Dec 2014 #92

Except that there was no planting of evidence. GGJohn Dec 2014 #94

In other words, you won't deliver Just for Fun Dec 2014 #97

IOW, you're too lazy to go find them. GGJohn Dec 2014 #99

That video is pretty clear to me too. cwydro Dec 2014 #118

I guess they figured a dead man could not tell his side of the story. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #70

Did they also kill the guy standing next to Martin? No? Then that blows THAT theory, eh? n/t X_Digger Dec 2014 #96

The guy standing next to Martin may have something to say, yes? MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #174

You make no sense. 840high Dec 2014 #110

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2014 #129

All I need to see is the whole video. rgbecker Dec 2014 #69

Maybe because they didn't want to cause the family more stress. GGJohn Dec 2014 #73

Yeah, you can. This one is clean. PeteSelman Dec 2014 #75

You should post... TeeYiYi Dec 2014 #77

It's all over the internet . PeteSelman Dec 2014 #104

Since it's "all over the internet"... TeeYiYi Dec 2014 #105

Nothing stopping you from 840high Dec 2014 #111

Well hello, 840high... I see you've decided to... TeeYiYi Dec 2014 #117

Look it up yourself. "nite 840high Dec 2014 #122

I'll take that as a 'no'... TeeYiYi Dec 2014 #123

Most normal humans do not go out of their way greyl Dec 2014 #128

heh Bobbie Jo Dec 2014 #177

Hey Pete sheshe2 Dec 2014 #91

Can't find anything on the cbs news site. cwydro Dec 2014 #120

Everyone wanted video in Brown case. maced666 Dec 2014 #126

No, the BPD is ... they edited the video... I want to see the whole fucking thing not what the uponit7771 Dec 2014 #133

Ha, we saw it in the Gardner case and it proved he was murdered. Live and Learn Dec 2014 #146

This doesn't look like a gun being pulled. Rex Dec 2014 #135

That looks totally different because that's not Antonio Martin. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2014 #136

Okay so the cops have a witness that Martin had a gun then. Rex Dec 2014 #137

His "friend" ran like hell, as I said. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2014 #138

So you have no idea why the friend ran, just that he ran like hell. Rex Dec 2014 #139

We can see it just fine from the other angle. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2014 #140

He ran for his life into the safety of the store. JimDandy Dec 2014 #195

Yeah, riiiiiight!!!! GGJohn Dec 2014 #196

Not so verbose anymore? JimDandy Dec 2014 #197

I've already proven you wrong in earlier posts on this thread, GGJohn Dec 2014 #198

Not so. We simply disagree on what is "clearly" shown. JimDandy Dec 2014 #199

What I'm calling ridiculous is your assertation that the officer basically executed Martin. GGJohn Dec 2014 #200

I never asserted the officer executed Martin. Didn't even imply it. JimDandy Dec 2014 #201

Don't assume that or anything... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #173

It would be nice if a 3rd party looked the video over. Rex Dec 2014 #175

Apparently the camera only comes on when the car lights are turned on shaayecanaan Dec 2014 #181

Reports herein are about as accurate as whether the teen had a gun� soft pitch DLC POV, I'd say... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #182

I'm sorry, I can't follow much of that (nt) shaayecanaan Dec 2014 #189

What? About Free Republic as a reference to this point of view? MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #190

I knew something was fishy here Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #156

Occupy San Diego, famous for the Jay Polk fiasco pintobean Dec 2014 #161

I see a cellphone nt. rbrnmw Dec 2014 #171

I see a gun. eom GGJohn Dec 2014 #178

Antonio Martin falls when shot. You can see his feet in the lower left of the video. Jacoby365 Dec 2014 #179

Actually, he's on the right front side of the car, and the gun is next to him. GGJohn Dec 2014 #180

You can write "cell phone" chickenfairy Dec 2014 #202

I've never seen a gun with a glowing screen TriplD Dec 2014 #203

That's not a cellphone screen, it's the officer's flashlight. GGJohn Dec 2014 #204